http://www.autonews.com/article/201...-set-to-post-first-loss-in-more-than-15-years It is difficult to see VW getting out of this (say in 5 years' time) with a hit of less than, say, at a minimum, 12-15 billion euro-s. Since they're now at the mercy of the American judicial system with its class-action lawsuits from dealers, investors and owners, let alone severe regulatory fines, including for 'wire fraud' given their loud but false advertizing, all to be decided by juries known to give gratuitous financial 'awards': could in fact very easily be much worse! VW was, even before the current scandal broke, in trouble with (a) negligible profit margins on the vw brand (b) dwindling sales, marketshare, reputation and margins in china (c) a slow and bloated-cost new-model cycle (d) losses in Latin America, and in India, and near-absence ex-Audi in Asia-Pacific other than of course China where too now their star in dwindling fast. They'd be perhaps best advised, and this is a Fiat-fan joke/jibe, to accept a powertrain-sharing deal with FCA: they could give-up their now-disreputable diesel-emissions-cheater engines, use fca's diesels, big or small, ONLY, and fca could use say the dsg gearboxes and/or some of the smaller TSi engines. As VW cuts costs globally, could it ironically see a greater role for VW-Skoda-Audi India's plant(s), India as a low-cost base for exports of engines, transmissions as well as new-model cars and especially small suv-s? Like the use India is being put-to by Ford, and notably by Chevrolet who are quitting Thailand, Indonesia and Australia, as well as scaling-back in rising-cost Korea and say India will be its major global production centre for its smaller, cheaper, emerging-market models, and of course FCA with its powertrain exports and its JEEP export plan?