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SCOOP!! - The JEEP's have cometh !!

Discussion in 'Fiat India News' started by amogh, Feb 10, 2013.

  1. Turbothinghy

    Turbothinghy Superiore

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    Just gathered from TFMC:

    Jeep is coming to Kochi (Pinnacle ) @ 31st August :joyful:. That place rightly deserves to be one of the first 6 places for initial Jeep dealerships, thanks to a lot of enthusiasts there.
  2. limraj

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    Jeep has a good following in Kerala. If they price it well, as a competition to T fortuner, or even under cut it, it will sell very well.
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  3. Turbothinghy

    Turbothinghy Superiore

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    Looking at the latest Innova's exhorbitant pricing, I feel the new Fortuner would also cost a bomb, maybe around 35-40 lacs. Lets hope Jeep Wrangler is proced around the same price interval.
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  4. prabhjot

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    Unfortunately the Indian rupee is pretty much back down to its lowest lows that led the deferral of the JEEP launch plan in the first place. The Wrangler Unlimited's pricing may not quite be as competitive as that, then, NOT that the Fortuner is nearly as capable or famous or charismatic or 'authentic' or 'Desi' (in a way).

    BUT IMO the next gen Wrangler, releasing in the USA in end-2017 or a bit later, ought very much to be assembled here, hey (if it is light enough: a major trait of the new Wrangler apparently) it could be deployed with the India-localized 2 litre mjd. i.e., great price competitiveness, to go with good re-export potential to RHD markets like Australia, the UK, japan and Korea etc.

    The point simply is with Mike Manley heading both JEEP globally and being boss of FIAT group brands in India and China, we can bank on him (a) pushing hard with the cheaper, new JEEPs (c-SUV plus 1 or 2 models at or below the renegade level), and not just remaining content with Fortuner- or luxe-suv cbu competition

    (b) using the whole JEEP branding, dealership(up-gradation), marketing and new models through to 2018 to re-float the FIAT brand's boat in India, while also making India a major export hub for JEEP, and for the new localized 2 litre mjd2.

    This has been made possible ONLY because of the shared platform (albeit with different suspension etc architecture) between the new, less expensive, more global-market Jeeps and the new Fiat brand models: 'susw' and/or the upgraded, Brazilian 'new punto' platform to be used for Fiat AND a small JEEP.

    That's how i see them proceeding, and it's imo the best approach, and will be successful, all told? The 500X, fca, bring the 500X after the Jeep c-suv in 2017! Current Fiat owners will get a superb upgrade, you can export it, let alone its mate the Renegade (a bit later), you can leverage the JEEP brand and new c-suv marketing for the FIAT brand, and its (hopefully) newer and more-improved dealerships.
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  5. SOOZ_P

    SOOZ_P Regolare

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  6. prabhjot

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    Why not, JEEP (and Fiat and even 'Dodge'+Piaggio-Vespa) are way more 'Indian' than pretty much all other firms in India, except Mahindra-i.e.,-Willy's Jeep, etc: they were or have been in India pretty much at or since ww2/Independence/birth! More or less.

    THAT is a major reason I at least (like my dad and my late granddad-and-grandmum) support 'FCA' or its component brands. My granddad was in the British Indian army during ww2, so, and owned a Dodge and Indian Fiats after the independence.

    Great to see them affirm the India-connection, rather than pretend to be uber-this-or-das-auto-that from the glamorous Euro-global ether. If the India 'connection' is integrated within all/most of the new JEEP brand communications, smartly and cannily, and well beyond the universal utilization of the 'independence day' feel-good for advertising, PR and marketing purposes, that is.
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  7. prabhjot

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    Here are picutures of the to-be India-made c-suv mule in Renegade drag (it is clearly a 'stretched' Renegade: notice the rear door and the c pillar, plus the different geometry of the front grill+ headlamps etc), being quoted here from teambhp where a Pune member, Nilesh5417, snapped it at his apartment block. The model will apparently be shown at the Sao Paolo autoshow in a couple of months' time, and go on sale there early 2017 at the latest. Mexico manufacture for the usa market begins in Jan/Feb 2017, China soon after, with India it seems going last (mid-late 2017?).

    Re: Jeep Renegade spied testing in India
    Some more pics from an undisclosed location in my apartments! biggrin.gif Will peep in later if any one is interested in more pics.
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    Jeep 551 (Jeep C-SUV) interior spy shot

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    It's doubtful all versions of the c-suv will have a touchscreen as big as this large UConnect. Autocar reports that FCA india will try to cover a wide price-band with this model, even claiming FCA will offer the Indian c-suv with a 1.5/1.6 mjd engine on entry 2x2 models. If so the pricing could really be ultra-compelling, WAY below the Endeavour and Fortuner, at least for the simpler 2x2 models. 17-19 lakhs ex-showroom at the lower end?
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    http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20160821000269

    JEEP launches in South Korea too, in a bigger way, as does Fiat plus (to follow shortly) Alfa Romeo.

    i.e., FCA is finally turning its focus fully towards Asia-Pacific, having more or less grown splendidly back to #4 position in both the USA+#4 position by sales in Europe, and with still a strong position in Brazil+Argentina, plus good growth for Fiat-Brazil models in Mexico, over the last 4-5 years. Lots of new models, new factories for these regions, too, with several more coming-soon.

    Such as the Jeep c-suv, which will be FCA's most-'global' model: built in Brazil, Mexico, China and India too.

    With this model FCA begins to fully address its only glaring weak sales-region: Asia-Pacific. Even Australia, a traditionally strong market for American brands is seeing a huge dip in sales of Ford, GM and Jeep, due to the depreciation of the aussie$, and due to the legacy issues of mistrust between the old pre-fca Chrysler dealers and management. apan, though, sees FCA racking up great good-margin sales gains, despite the market overall being in a disinflationary and perpetual slowdown funk.

    FCA is selling the JEEP Cherokee and now renegade too, locally made, at the combined rate of around13,000 sales a month, with many sales also each month of Maseratis and Ferraris, plus imported Jeeps and a few Chryslers.

    With the c-suv, then, exported out of India for rhd markets like (Australia, Japan, Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia) in Asia or lhd ones out of China, to go with also the other models that will be or are already being manufactured locally: FCA finally has the models, the brand: JEEP, andthe competitive manufacturing and currency cost to grow sales hugely in Asia-Pacific, including ASEAN and Australia.

    It is NO coincidence that Mike Manley heads both the JEEP brand globally and FCA all-brands-sales for Asia-Pacific.

    Where JEEP dealerships and service opens or expands, Alfa Romeo and in some places FIAT, will follow, or vice versa. By 2018/19, then, FCA will have created or expanded distribution and service facilities in many ASEAN countries where it is either missing or tiny so far: on the back of JEEP. Fiat brand vehicles, especially exported from India (?) could then also have a better market: malaysia, thailand ansd indonesia especially, perhaps the Phillipines too? Not to mention Australia where India-made Jeeps and/or Fiats would seem an essential market weapon to combat the too-high pricing caused by the strong us$ and the strong euro, relatively speaking.

    The multibrand dealership model FCA follows around the world (in different geometries) is being implemented also now in China and Japan (very successfully so far), now in India, and soon enough in Asean+Australia as well. Exports of either a few Indian or Chinese-made Jeeps and Fiats are also, feasible to Southern and East Africa (rhd)+Sri Lanka, etc. Also, imo exports to IRAN, of kits and engines etc if not whole-cars, now that it is emerging from the harsh sanctions regime, would be very feasible from India as well as China for fca models, depending on whether FCA pushes into that re-opened, but huge albeit risky, market with somelocal assembly etc.

    These markets, new or tiny for FCA brands, are however, dominated by the Japanese, the Korean and now also the Chinese brands and firms. Including Australia+New Zealand. But by exporting out of India+China, and especially by getting sales and service on a higher plane (via combined FCA brands dealers) FCA could for the first time ever be in a position to breakthrough in this region, the largest car market in the world. Success in China and Japan is baked-in, now for India, then ASEAN+Australia?
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