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Discussion in 'Linea 1.3 MJD' started by nkrishnap, Sep 18, 2012.

  1. nkrishnap

    nkrishnap Staff Member Janitor

    Linea 1.3
    I had bought a Toyota Etios Liva G – SP Vermillion Red in October 2011. The car was running perfectly fine.

    Unexpectedly with just a couple test drives (long test drives for both petrol and diesel) I decided to part away with the Liva to get home a diesel sedan.

    First glimpse of the car for this thread.

  2. nkrishnap

    nkrishnap Staff Member Janitor

    Linea 1.3
    Purchase Dilemma - Which one

    21st of July 2012 - I had accompanied my cousin to help him out with his purchase of his Punto. Soon after he books the car, we were offered a drive in the Tjet+ to the yard near Nelamangala for the PDI of the Punto. The drive was through the interior roads of Girinagar and then the NICE Road. The drive was fantastic. Returned home with a wide grin.

    22nd July 2012 - Only thing I did was recollecting how good the drive was. So started finding a few facts about the usage of the Liva and the fuel consumption. The amount that I was spending for a month close to 10K for the past 3 months. Now this seriously made me think about swapping the car. I started discussing about the plan with my better half who was not receptive at all to the idea. But had to make her understand the overall cash flow and things like those to convince her. Moreover even I wanted a sedan instead of a diesel hatch for whatever reasons.

    Firstly was looking to buy the Fiat Linea Tjet Plus which had a very sweet deal going. Even with this the running cost will be very high. Being a motorhead I was finding all sorts of reasons to drive the Liva, so keeping a check on the running for the Tjet+ was simply impossible nor driving the Tjet+ for mileage would defeat the purpose it was bought for. With the head slightly taking edge over the heart with all sorts of calculations was back to square one. The Linea had me nailed from the heart. However, the finances did not let the heart overrule the head and this is when my wife threw a wild card idea.

    The wild card idea - Why not buy the diesel and keep the running cost in check? Valid point as the EMI difference between a Tjet+ and MJD was a mere 2800 bucks. However the running cost for around 1500 kms was significant (less than half the amount of the diesel). The diesel purchase option one did not influence the cash outflow much. (Was in the ball park figure I was currently spending though not without a 10-15% incremental cost which was acceptable to me)

    Later one more round of discussion directed us towards the MJD Linea. One more round of test drive of the Diesel Linea sealed the decision in favor of the MJD. So it was decided that the Liva will be sold and the Linea would be bought. The next dilemma was which color. The 3 color options permitted from the family was Bossa Nova White, Tuscan wine and Sun Beam Beige. Tuscan wine requires meticulous attention being dark color; Sun Beam Beige did not interest me much. The white was liked by all, so Bossa Nova White color car was booked.

    Now the search for the buyer started. The process seemed never ending. Started negotiating with the dealer itself to match my expectations. During this process one gentleman shows interest in purchasing the car. We agreed on a price and the car sold the very next day. I had to foreclose the car loan on Liva taken from State Bank of Mysore. Done all the formalities and applied for a fresh loan in State Bank of India.

    The car loan got approved in 3 working days flat (SBI is the bank to approach for a car loan. The benefits simply outweigh any inconveniences), with the down payment formalities and amount disbursed on the 4th of September 2012, the car was sent for registration. With 4th September 2012 being Tuesday and parents felt it was not auspicious to get the car delivered on a Tuesday, we had to take the delivery on Wednesday the 5th September 2012.

    A few pics of the delivery

    The car ready for delivery


    Better half getting the car blessed by the almighty


    The keys being handed over to us


    Driving out after the formalities


    Will post the dealership experience in a separate post.
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  3. gurjinder

    gurjinder Staff Member Janitor

    Heartiest congratulations.:up

    That first glimpse is pretty much like a leopard in the dark ready to pounce on its prey!
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  4. nkrishnap

    nkrishnap Staff Member Janitor

    Linea 1.3
    Initial Review

    The odo stands at 2598 kms as of today. Many things have already been written about the Linea. So I would be listing out the main attributes of the car that I found in these initial days.


    1. Looks, Looks and Looks. Simply good looking from any angle. Love the Bossa Nova White color
    2. 16" Turbine blade alloy wheels enhances the looks of the car and the wide tyres 205/55 R16 tyres
    3. Ride, handling and stability the best among the segment. The car seems to be moving on rails
    4. Steering feedback and the steering wheel is to worship for
    5. Comes fully loaded, need not spend too much expect for a few basic accessories
    6. Light clutch
    7. The low end torque is quite good
    8. Comfortable front seats
    9. Good quality High beam
    10. The speed masking capacity is superb

    Things that could have been better

    1. The audio output quality is nothing to write home about. At this price point its better for FIAT to provide better quality speakers
    2. Not so good brightness for the low beam, however the spread is good enough
    3. Better attention to detail at the assembly line
    4. A better designed mud flaps. The currents ones looks like the odd part on the car
    5. Illuminated scuff plates not available for the MJD. Available only for Tjet


    1. No bottle holders in the car. What was FIAT thinking when they modified/customized the design for India
    2. Evident cost cutting in a few places near the foot AC vents. Will post a picture for this a little later

    Accessories for the car

    The below items were added to the car from the dealer.

    1. The mats and mud flaps
    2. Door Sills
    3. Car cushion (Linea engraved)
    4. Neck Rest
    5. Reverse Camera with reverse parking sensors
    6. Door Visors
    7. Boot Mat (Bought the Tjet one as I wanted the mat to complete the package. Will get the Tjet text removed from the mat.

    Additional items done

    Visited the 3M car care at HSR layout for the below items. The service as always was top notch.

    1. 3M 5 year anti rust under body coating
    2. Paint Sealant
    3. Engine Lacquer
    4. 3M Mats for the rear seat area

    Fuel Efficiency - has been ranging from 12.6 kmpl to 21.5 kmpl. The roads are varying from very high traffic to nice smooth highways. That section coming up next.

    Will post more observations as and when more kms are piled up on the odo.

    Thank you so much.

    Some more pics coming soon

    MODS NOTE - Edited out the "sir". There are no sirs here. :)
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  5. riturajmnnit

    riturajmnnit Amatore

    Bengaluru, India
    Congrats Nkrishnap.

    Please PM me the offered price and experiance with Prerana, I am going to book Multijet dynamic in a week time :)
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  6. Ravi

    Ravi Staff Member Janitor

    Grande Punto 1.3
    Excellent start and your likes and dislikes are spot on.
    This 16" alloys increases Linea's beauty to its peak.

    About mud flap, after long wait, Fiat is going to provide much better flaps, see here - http://www.teamfiat.co.in/fiat-indi...linea-absolute-edition-pack-4.html#post127518

    You can look at reviews here - http://www.teamfiat.co.in/dealership-reviews/163-prerana-motors-bangalore.html
  7. PatchyBoy

    PatchyBoy Esperto

    Tell me about the mudflaps. I told the dealer not once, but 10 times, even on the day of registration not to fix those fugly mudflaps - especially by drilling holes on the side of the rear bumper. Then the car gets delivered to me with mudflaps fitted :A

    Reason : The delivery team decided to use their "heads" and somehow figured that mudflaps were missed out and decided to fix it anyways. What a bunch of losers. I mean how can they just assume that I want fugly hole in my 10 L car??

    Sorry for digressing. Congrats on the buy.


    PS: Good luck with the review getting published - you know where
    PPS: If I were you, I would have edited the post before copy paste - I am a TFIian here, not a BHPian
  8. nkrishnap

    nkrishnap Staff Member Janitor

    Linea 1.3
    The Italians know a thing or two about design and curves. The car exteriors have been meticulously designed. This shows as the car is very photogenic and photograph it from any angle, its looks good. The design is such that all the colors in production in India looks good on the Linea. Its a tough choice selecting the color for Linea.

    The 16 inch wheels with the flared wheel arches gives a purposeful stance to the car. I simply love the double barrel headlight for the car. The rear is neatly done as well. Only grouse is with the raised suspension kit, the rear end of the car seems to be a little too high to the liking. All the chrome beedings add that jazz to the car.


    The first thing you notice inside the car is, its actually small compared to the overall size of the car. However since, nobody in the family is above 5'7 so nothing much to worry about. The black beige combo really makes the interiors feel good and Indians love Beige.

    The retro dials with the white background is nice and liked it most. The wiper controls are on the right and the headlight controls are on the left of the steering wheel. It took a day to get adjusted to this set up.

    The seats are comfy with good support, though it felt a tab bit harder than the fabric seats. The rear seats comes 3 head rests and an arm rest with cup holders. The front seats have 2 pockets which I found quite useful to keep at least half a litre bottles or a magazine. The front seats have lot of travel and the seat height adjust mechanism has good range too.

    The Automatic Climate control AC is quite good and chills the cabin in no time. I did not find any difference between the Tjet+ AC unit to the one in my Car. They seem to be on par. Even the hot afternoon in the Tamil Nadu plains did not bother much as the cabin was cooled in a matter of mins. Also noticed one more thing, with the AC compressor on, it did not make a too much of a difference to the pick up and nor the revs. A bit confused on this as how it can happen. Another thing is the blower is a bit noisy at full speed.

    No bottle holder space anywhere in the car which is a very bad thing for the Indian market.

    The audio in the car is nothing to write home about. The lack of Vitamin M is holding me back for the speaker upgrade.

    Engine, Gearbox and The Drive
    I need not write much about our national engine. The Linea Diesel comes with the National engine with a VGT in a higher state of tune than its sibling (Punto). The max power is rated at 93PS @ 4000 rpm and max torque of 209 NM @ 2000 rpm. FIAT has carried the same C530 gearbox for the Punto and Linea to keep the costs down. Wish they had the European version gearboxes to make full utilization of this little capable engine.

    There is turbo lag below 1500-1600 RPM. If one is stuck below this RPM in a particular and want brisk acceleration, it simply isn't possible. Downshift is a must to stay above 1500 rpm. If one stays about 1500 rpm, there is nothing much to complain about in the city like Bangalore where you have hardly any roads to go beyond this RPM. The clutch is light though with long travel. Can be a pain in the city if one is not used to the long clutch travel.

    Some observations on the GEAR - RPM - SPEED combinations

    3rd Gear - 1000 RPM - 20 kmph
    4th Gear - 1000 RPM - 30 kmph
    5th Gear - 1000 RPM - 40 kmph

    For every 1000 incremental RPM one can multiply the speed factor. For example, 5th Gear 2000 RPM takes you to 80 kmph.

    The shift feels rubbery but slots in properly. Also the longer throw ensures there is some time lost during the gear shifts.

    Ride, Handling, Steering Feedback and Braking
    The ride is a bit stiff at low speeds but definitely not bouncy. As the speed increases the ride gets better. Sometimes, the sharps bumps do filter into the cabin at low speeds, but at higher speeds the suspension set up simply smothers everything out. As a matter of fact, my parents had dosed off comfortably in the Linea during the drive, but in the Liva they used to get disturbed quite often due to the ride.

    The handling is again top notch with no alarming body roll or anything. I was a bit skeptical when I decided on diesel car because the new ones came with 185 mm ground clearance. But a proper test drive taking a few curves on empty roads cleared all the doubts. There is a slight bit of body roll but definitely nothing to be concerned about.

    The perfectly calibrated hydraulic steering gives wonderful feedback and lets the driver know whats under the tyres. The steering has been lightened for the slower speeds, but weighs up neatly as the speeds build up. The steering wheel is perfect in size and with the thumb rest, feels superb to hold.

    The Ride, Handling and the steering combo makes this car very satisfying to drive. It brings a smile every time a corner is taken at good speeds.

    But whats all these without proper brakes. The braking is very reassuring and stops in a straight line even during panic braking. Experienced this during the highway drive when one of the goats hoped on to the road suddenly. Just slammed the brakes, the car shed speed without any fuss in a straight line. This helps in steering the car in the required direction during deceleration without much fuss.

    With the chassis being very good, this car simply screams for the 1.6 MJD. It will come for sure, but the timeline has no timeline.
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  9. BoseSuman

    BoseSuman Superiore

    Midnapur (W.B) & Hyderabad (A.P) India.
    Linea 1.3
    Great write up & many congrachulations to you for your Linea.
    16 inch Alloy is looking really great in Linea & perfect.
  10. punto_emotion

    punto_emotion Esperto

    Grande Punto 1.3
    Wow! Congrats for your beauty! Nice detailed review. We would definitely like to know more about your experience and the change over process from a Toyota to FIAT.

    Happy & Safe motoring :redcar

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