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Peted, K&Ned, 1,76,000 Kilometers completed

Discussion in 'Punto 1.3 MJD' started by epicenter, Jun 11, 2010.

  1. kr_vasudev

    kr_vasudev Superiore

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    Re: Peted, K&Ned, 22K Kilometers, 4 Months

    Could you please provide some gyan on cleaning the K&N for Palio 1.2 ?

    I usually remove and get the pressured air on the filter. Is there any other method for cleaning ? Like dipping in petrol :)

    Thanks
    Vasu
  2. epicenter

    epicenter Amatore

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    Valsad, India
    Re: Peted, K&Ned, 22K Kilometers, 4 Months

    sat paaji
    a lot is pending from my side and i am sorry for being so lazy about all this. the problem is that every time i think about doing it, a new vehicle comes to me and i get all busy driving it and testing out its limits. last time it was the swift and this time it was a tata sierra turbo which needed a tune up. had to do the pump timing as the pump had been overhauled and the stupid guys at the workshop had retarded the timing. the car was not moving the way it should. after some fine tuning it not only smoothened up but it set the roads on fire. had great fun offroading in it with brand new yokohama geolandar at/s tires. one hell of a set of wheels to have on anything big.
    coming back to the point of costs:
    the k&n is 5200 odd bucks
    the remus is 18900 bucks plus fitment charges. although i didnt have to pay any, one would have to pay around 2000 bucks for it
    the tuning box was carried over from the swift and then it was around 24000 bucks.
    the smoked tail lamps would cost you anything between 2500 to 5000 bucks depending how much the guy doing it is willing to earn. i had them done complimentary :D
    the yokohama avs decibels, 205/60 R 15s are 4850 a tire inclusive of taxes.
    i guess that makes up the cost part.
    about the k&n admitting dust into the engine, it cant happen since the filter is cotton and wiremesh where the cotton is impregnated with oil to catch the dust. the same is the case with pipercross with the only difference being the material of construction. with the pipercross its pu foam which will not be able to withstand the rigors of air intake for a longer period of time. i guess they wont last for more than 60k kilometers.
    about the sound, well the problem with the punto is a very short air intake hose that goes directly to the air filter and then directly to the engine unlike a lot of other cars where the air intake hose goes into a resonator box where the velocity of the air goes down and then it enters the air filter. also there is some distance between the air filter and the engine air inlet.
    during high rpms when the requirement of air is more resulting in more flow, the noise is amplified. a restricted stock air filter adds to the sound factor.
    a better breathing air filter would bring down the noise a little. a tuning box will not help there as the quantity of diesel and the number of injection sequences per given time will increase resulting in a resonance from the combustion chamber.
    a remus and a better breathing air filter will defintely make a difference but before you dispose off the tuning box, make sure you try your car with the following configurations:
    1. remus, stock filter only
    2. remus, stock filter and tuning box
    3. remus, k&n only
    4. remus, k&n and tuning box.
    the 4th combo is the most lethal and potent and i suppose once you try it out, you will want to retain the tuning box.
    anything else you wanna know pls feel free to get in touch.
    the car crossed 54000 kilometers a couple of days ago and though i am not a very big fan of top speeds, i managed to attain 170 on the gps unit with a bit of effort but without working out a sweat.
    shows that the car is actually capable of that speed with some mods but doesnt make sense trying to put a car to its premature death by doing this regularly.
    this is the first and the last time i have done it. also it doesnt look good coming from people like us who as a part of a forum advocate road safety and driving sense.
    take care and drive safe
    always wear a seatbelt.
  3. epicenter

    epicenter Amatore

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    Valsad, India
    Re: Peted, K&Ned, 22K Kilometers, 4 Months

    hi vasudev
    please refer page 12 of this article. its already there.
    never dip your air filter in petrol.
    drive safe and always wear a seatbelt.
  4. kr_vasudev

    kr_vasudev Superiore

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    Bangalore
    Re: Peted, K&Ned, 22K Kilometers, 4 Months

    Thanks for the info, it is very detailed one
  5. kr_vasudev

    kr_vasudev Superiore

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    Bangalore
    Re: Peted, K&Ned, 22K Kilometers, 4 Months

    Hi Epicenter,

    This thread has been very helpful in cleaning my K&N Filter. Oh my, there was so much of carbon deposits.

    1. Removed filter and took it to the air filling shop and with pressure air removed all the dirt
    2. Came home took a old tooth brush and removed all the sticky oily dust part
    3. I did not had solvent to clean, used AMWAY solvent, dipped in hot water -- i could see a 4 ltr water turning into a gutter water
    4. Kept for 30 mins in the cleaning agent
    5. Removed from the agent and again used hot water and cleaned the Filter
    6. Kept for drying, tomorrow will place it in the assembly

    Earlier the filter was almost in black color, not it has appearing as a dark Pink color :dance

    By the way, used solar hot water -- go green

    Thanks
    Vasu
  6. epicenter

    epicenter Amatore

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    Valsad, India
    Re: Peted, K&Ned, 22K Kilometers, 4 Months

    hi vasu
    u'll need k&n air filter oil to recharge your filter before you put it back into your car.
    unless that happens, you cant use the filter.
  7. kr_vasudev

    kr_vasudev Superiore

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    Bangalore
    Re: Peted, K&Ned, 22K Kilometers, 4 Months

    Thanks epicenter, i will have it done. Currently car is running with stock air-filter

    Regards
    Vasu
  8. epicenter

    epicenter Amatore

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    Valsad, India
    Re: Peted, K&Ned, 22K Kilometers, 4 Months (ab tak chhappan)

    gaaij
    yet another reason to celebrate.
    the car crosses 56000 kilometers today. the odo reads 56026 as i write.
    you must have noticed that i've reduced my posts a lot.
    well the thing is that the car is behaving so fantastically well that there is no reason to complain.
    it does a nice 140 kph at a mere tap on the accelerator pedal. 170 is also very easily achievable.
    yesterday i'd gone to mumbai and decided to take the punto. i'd reduced the tire pressure to 28 as i just wanted to see how much difference it made in the handling vs comfort department.
    well the handling was affected a bit as the v550s are stiffer sidewalled and any decrease in the recommended tire pressure reduces the stiffness required for high speed cornering, but the comfort was amazing. i am willing to compromise a bit on the handling but only after i try different combinations of tire pressure.
    while coming back it was past midnight and the temperature was around 12 degrees. the car ran like a bomb with almost no turbo lag. i hardly upshifted to 4th to overtake. a slight tap on the accelerator pedal had it jumping out of its skin and willing to do what i pleased.
    i am simply falling more and more in love with this car as much as i drive it. the muffler has its glasswool set to the high speeds now and makes wonderful music. yesterday, i didnt need a cd player to play something for me. simply taking the car to 80 kph in the third and then 110 in the fourth does the job no symphony in the world can match.
    just wanted to share my thoughts.
    drive safe, all of you.
    always wear a seat belt.
  9. Ravi

    Ravi Staff Member Janitor

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    Grande Punto 1.3
    Re: Peted, K&Ned, 22K Kilometers, 4 Months

    Thats a lot of mileage - 56K, wow.
    And good to hear car is performing well.

    Yes even i feel with outside temp less, car behaves much better.
  10. epicenter

    epicenter Amatore

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    Re: Peted, K&Ned, 22K Kilometers, 4 Months

    a few days ago, the car was resting in the office parking.
    when i came back to pick it up, i couldnt believe what i was seeing. the boot lid was all pressed in. somebody had dashed his car into mine and not only dented the boot, but also misaligned the rear bumper and taken the reverse light in the bumper off.
    fuming, i enquired at the security post but they didnt know who had done it.
    heart broken, i headed back home. the car had to be given in for repairs definitely. as soon as i was off this busy schedule.
    the next day, my dad wanted the car so i left on the 535.
    around four in the afternoon, i got a call from dad. a truck had decided to overtake from the left on a badly jammed diversion and driven into my car. the front left fender and door were dented. the mirror broke off its mount and got crushed under the truck wheel. the tire of the truck also made sure that i had no left indicator left to blink. hassling with the truck driver netted dad around 6000 rupees, barely enough for the repair job. i didnt want to use the insurance because it was to be renewed on the 1st and i wanted to shift over to zero depreciation and also use the no claim bonus.
    since i hadnt seen the car, i was so heartbroken about both the incidents that i just didnt want to go near the car. the same day, a very close friend's almost new (8 month) old skoda superb also met with an accident. bad times.
    called up my friend from the Fiat Service center to just have a look at the car and let me know what was the damage, both to the car and to my pocket.
    his words brought a sense of relief. most of the scars on the car were rubber that had come off the truck tires and could be removed with a good wash and some careful polishing. the mirror would have to be replaced and so would the indicator. the front fender could be repaired and painted.
    an hour later, the same friend whose skoda was damaged, called me up and told me about a guy in surat who did up dents without damaging the paint.
    since the damage was already done, we headed off to surat immediately to the address given by another friend. a couple of hours later, we were greeted by Shabbir, a youngish chap running a small 10 x 10 workshop that specialised in power window repairs. apprehensive about how he would handle the job we waited till he attended our car.
    in the meanwhile, a white swift with a bad dent in the door had also come up for repairs. since this guy had called first, he was given preference. taking his tools of trade, a set of solid files made from stainless steel, some support blocks also made of stainless steel and some cotton tshirts, a rubber hammer and some other stuff, he went about his job. we were too busy worrying about lost lunch to see what he was doing, when suddenly he came over to ask for the car keys.
    "kaam ho gaya kya?" my friend asked.
    "woh swift ka? haan to...gaadi ja rahi hai...dekhoge?" was shabbir's reply.
    we went around to see the job and we were actually almost speechless. where there had been a mangled mass of dents, there was now, a smooth surface with barely a couple of harsh scratches, where the paint had worn off or broken during the accident that was visible.
    impressed...truly impressed.
    within 10 minutes, the damage was assessed and the dismantling had started. the inner plastic claddings were removed with gloved hands and proper screwdrivers and stowed seperately in bubble wrap covers.
    "yeh kuchh nahin hai bhai...ek ghante mein sab theek kar dunga" were the last words Shabbir spoke before he went to beat the hell out of the dents
    too scared to look at my car taking a beating, i wandered around.
    an hour and 10 minutes later, shabbir came and asked me to take a look.
    where there had been a mass of ugly black rubber and deformed metal was now a shining sparkling surface. like the swift, a couple of deep scratches were the only witnesses to an accident.
    a mirror was available but with a different colored cap and he quoted 1800 bucks. i decided to get it from the showroom. no matter it would cost more, but atleast it would be a fresh piece.
    very much relieved after looking at the car and the wonderful job he had done, i asked how much i owed him.
    "1500 hota hai par aap jo doge chalega. kaam dekh ke de do"
    i fished out 1200 from my wallet and handed it over to him asking him if it was alright.
    another fifty and the account was settled fair and square and we were homeward bound, but not before a truly deserving stop at "Amdavadi Tawa" for a belly full of some of the tastiest non vegetarian food in South Gujarat.
    The next day, i called up the friend at Fiat to ask him if the mirror was available and when he confirmed it was i raced off to get it fitted.
    The thing is that the left mirror also holds the outside temperature sensor and if it is not there, the mid registers ___ Deg C. So the mirror was inevitable. even otherwise, not having a mirror makes driving very very depressing. its like driving with one eye closed.
    a half hour later at the Fiat Workshop, the mirror, the left indicator and the indicator bulb was fitted. Since the top covers of the mirror are only available in black, i decided to get one for the right mirror too.
    The final bill amounted to 1977 bucks with the mirror assembly costing me 1521 bucks, the caps costing me 71 bucks a piece and the indicator costing me 56 bucks and the fitting cover that covers the allen screws of the mount amounting to 17 bucks.
    the lamp costs 200 bucks but was fished out of an accident car and handed over to me complimentary.
    so at the end of the day the job that would have crossed about 8000 bucks was finished in 3227 bucks.
    will put up fotos of the finished work in some time.
    by the way, the car now sports a gps device that has been given by a friend as a demo piece. it will also be sporting a gear shift indicator and something else in the next 15 days or so. i will also be smartwaxing the car now that i have money to spare.
    insurance comes up for renewal tomorrow. i'll be shifting from the conventional future generali policy to a zero depreciation one by bajaj allianz.
    the car crossed 59000 kilometers. only 1000 kilometers to go before my 5th service.
    i also cross verified a true speed of 170 kph on the gps a couple of times.
    although it takes a bit of a time to reach the said speed, the remus does actually do a great job of getting you there without much aplomb.
    just updating the thread guys.
    drive safe all of you and always wear a seatbelt.

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