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news on the all-new ALFA ROMEO sedans, coupes and sports CUVs coming very soon

Discussion in 'Fiat Global News' started by prabhjot, May 14, 2015.

  1. Raj_pol

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    @prabhjot Exactly the kind of news that I love. I am neither civilized nor sophisticated and I have never understood the concept of legacy et all. I am the dude who finds the Beetle to be an abomination and the Abarth not so sexy. But the Giulia - I love. Beautiful piece of machinery and while roaming the YouTube jungle; have seen some videos and the Alfa looks just lovely in a shade of red. Now if the power figures are true - something to dream about.
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    @Raj_pol

    You don't find legacy/history etc relevant, sure, but do sample if you have not already Alfa's history (like Maserati and Lancia too, and often Fiat as well) of automotive design: the Brera, the 156, 146, 159, the Stradale (inspiration for the 4C design)......and the original Giulietta Sprint (clear design inspiration for this Giulia). They either have cutting-edge, avant-garde styling OR radical renewals of old historical design grammar, NEVER a lowest-common-denominator, please-as-many-as-possible-offend-none approach to design, unlike the Germans.

    Fiat: 500, 600, 1100, 124, 127, barchetta, coupe, multipla....500L, 500X etc.

    To go with world-first engineering innovation in many cases.

    The Italians do DO Form (above all but has to...) meet substance better than anyone else in automotive history. Reliability and especially ASS quality have historically been a deficiency though, it is true: same as with the American, British, French, and often even German firms.

    The Giulia's torque vectoring based on the use of clutches for each rear wheel, and its 'virtual steering' etc seem like very far out things for handling's sake. etc.

    It will be an amazement, hopefully, to read honest and knowledgeable reviews/roadtests of this car.

    This car will sell well in Europe and in Australia+Japan+Mexico+Brazil, no doubt, but whether it'll gain acceptance in the US and whether the now-somewhat-receding Chinese car market will be buoyant enough to lap it up at high prices....?

    Which is why all this Alfa platform, multiple light-weight-materials use, engine, torque vectoring etc new tech will be getting amortized via Maserati yes but mainly the huge volumes in the US market for Dodge, Jeep and one or two Chryslers too, in the next gen models, or the all-new nameplates they've just shown.

    I can see myself mortgaging the house, selling the soul, etc etc, to get one WHEN (not if) it arrives here, alongwith the other later models off this same platform etc, in 2018 or later.:p

    @Vidhyashankar Kannan
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    http://www.autoedizione.nl/alfa-romeo-giulia-klaar-om-duitse-harten-te-veroveren/

    (please use Google translate)

    The Alfa Romeo Giulia is being launched in a few days at the frankfurt motor show.

    This of course is deliberate attempt to create a stir in the German premium/sporty car (esp sedan and coupe) market, by far Europe's biggest.

    Alfa Romeo-s have, precisely because they are NOT German, precisely because they are ITALIAN, a considerable following in germany, with its culture of fast driving. The current big, sporty, premium hatch from Alfa, the Giulietta, has seen sales increase recently, for example.

    FCA/Alfa apparently plan a big marketing campaign in germany during and after the coming-very-soon Frankfurt show.
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    An Alfa Romeo promotional video about the design language and philosophy of the Giulia.
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    http://europe.autonews.com/article/20150914/ANE/150919967

    Marchionne says the Alfa Romeo relaunch will succeed best and quickly at that in a rebounding Europe. He also says he has de-risked the Alfa launch (8 all-new models by 2018) as much as possible, including the ultimate option of stopping at just the first 2 or three models if financial returns are weak or macroeconomic conditions call for greater prudence. He avoids admitting that a lot of the new, cutting-edge r&d for the Alfa Romeo-s, "better than the Germans" he says, will indeed be amortized by the American mass-market (performance RWD) brands, especially Dodge and possibly Jeep too, and obviously over the longer-run Maserati and probably the upcoming new smaller, lower-priced 'Dino' Ferrari sub-brand? In order to no sully the high-tech, premium good-name of Alfa and Maserati.
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    The Alfa Giulia at the frankfurt show.

    Where, and these are 'official' times, the Giulia QV was claimed by Alfa to be the fastest saloon/sedan EVER, doing the Nurburgring quicker than the BMW m3/m4, the Mercedes AMG c63, the Audi RS4 BUT even the Lanborghini Muercilago(?), the prosche 911 gt3, the porsche panamera......

    Alfa say that it has the fastest steering, the best braking, the most rear legroom, is the lightest, with the most rigid chassis.......

    This car will go on sale first, as the launch edition, with germany being a special target-market right at the outset. The tamer engines and front-bumper-styling avatars will start being available early next year, with the ALfa 4C's 1.75 turbo-petrol with direct injection being a likely base petrol engine (200+Hp), and the brilliant new 2.2 litre mjd, all-aluminium, from the European Jeep Cherokee as well as the Maserati Ghibli being the likeliest and bestselling diesel in Europe.
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    Interesting commentary on the interior design and materials etc used on the Alfa Giulia, from an expert from the supplier/manufacturer (faurecia, the famous interiors specialists from France) as also a bit about the magneti marelli avn system, its integration in the dashboard etc.

    btw, magneti marelli apparently does the bmw idrive too, including designing and owning a lot of the IP!

    @Vidhyashankar Kannan @asimpleson
    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 18, 2015, Original Post Date: Sep 17, 2015 ---


    Nice marketing stunt/gimmick used at the Frankfurt autoshow, shown in this Alfa romeoofficial video:
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    An impressive presentation at the Frankfurt Auto Show currently underway by Harald Wester, the german engineer-ceo of Alfa Romeo and Maserati (and much else in FCA Europe) of the technically-stupendous Giulia Quadrofoglio.

    btw, he is considered by many to be the odds-on favourite to succeed Marchionne as ceo of FCA when the latter retires by 2020.

    He is an impressive character, is FCA's current chief technology officer too on a global basis, just as the American-Canadian Ralph Gilles is for all of FCA's design- and styling-work, and hopefully he'll be able to deliver the dealer and aftersales quality that Alfa will need if it is to grow well and fast and durably with this brand re-launch, these all-new cars and sports-suv-s. His record with maserati since its new models were launched has been pretty good, from all accounts.

    Alfa-s will come to india too, surely, to begin the battle against the German trio here too, presumably at somewhat similar though likely higher prices, but certainly not before 2018, if then, India obviously being less of a priority and a harder, because less 'mature' market than the US, Austalia, China and parts of the Middle East.

    Interestingly, Alfa-s will be sold out of currently operational JEEP dealerships in Europe, and in China, Australia, Middle East too, while in the US they'll be either sold by FIAT 'studios' or by Maserati delaerships.
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    http://www.clubalfa.it/8333-video-museo-alfa-romeo-storiche.html

    Perhaps the most apt current thread in which to post this.

    A 5 minute long handheld video of the almost complete and comprehensive, private collection of Alfa Romeo model that is, apparently, now much more open to public viewing (as per the owner/collector's wishes.)

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