^^^ Thanks for the appreciation! I just passed on information that I thought many will find useful whether they go in for a change or not. A car with a super slow pickup can be a pain with almost all new models having a decent pick up. Who wants to be left behind as the last car after moving from standstill either at a traffic light or a traffic jam. You lose time and not to mention your ego! I don't have any idea about Palio. Best thing to do is to contact these guys. Kiirus has a website where all the information is given. So does Pete's - they are the 2 most popular ones, you can ignore the rest. If you do a Google search you will get information about both , also don't forget to check out feedback in forums. Well, I have nothing more to add on this thread - hope it provided some value to those who read it. Moderators - Please close this thread.