Discussion in 'Fiat India News' started by amogh, Aug 4, 2015.
Good question, lets see if they had a chance to drive the Punto as well.
No TD was provided for the Abarth Punto although Fiat allowed to sit at passenger seat and the car driven by their driver.
And as per Fiat website, there is going to be 4 exclusive Abarth showrooms at Bangalore, Chennai, Delhi and Kolkata. Not sure if they will sell the car at Fiat showrooms too.
Very few takers in Kolkata even for Fiat. Not sure if its a correct move. Pune or Hyd should have been better choice.
I think this is a good move by Fiat, else there would have been a chance of Brand dilution and cannibalization of other Fiat cars. Well customers can always be referred to other showrooms (Fiat/Abarth)if they need something different, from what Fiat has to offer.
So Price of the Punto Abarth is still un-disclosed at the Launch ! wired.
Atleast we know how much the 500 is, just praying if the Punto is priced Below the VW GT(1.2 TSi), considering VW offers the Polo GT with a DSG Box(USP).
Punto Abarth was not launched yesterday. It was only showcased. (remember Avvy was showcased at Auto Expo ? )
So the prices are not yet available.
I think they will JUST undercut the VW 1.2 GT Tsi. Remember 1.2 gets into the lower tax slab.
Having said that, I feel this time Fiat has a very upper hand with the 1.4 Tjet vs 1.2 slab vs Competition.
1- The competition sells more and have invested in a 1.2 block for India keeping in mind the tax slab. -
Now they are forced to use 1.2. or 1.2 turbocharged(revotron, Tsi). the max output can be around 120 hp. If they want to have higher output, they have to invest in a 1.4/1.5 turbo charging.
2. Fiat on the other hand does not have a 1.2 offering and cannot spend on developing one only for India (considering sales of around 800 cars per month ). But relies on the 1.4 block used heavily even in global markets. various specs on the same block can be. 90 Hp NA ,114 HP TJET, 140 Hp Tjet, 160 HP Tjet. One good thing that Fiat already did was to Localize the 1.4 Tjet production.
Fiat can easily cater to the Petrol heads by providing very good engines at localized rates. and other manufacturers have to invest some moola to bring the output to match the Fiats.(ofcourse, maruti/hyundai/honda can invest in a 1.4/1.5 petrol turbo and quickly recover the investment easily by their sheer sales volume) I hope Fiat does not sign any contracts for 1.4 Tjet with Tata/maruti.
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2. Fiat on the other hand does not have a PowerFull 1.2 offering (its 8v, NA motor, only 68 HP) and Cannot spend on making a proper 16v 1.2 turbo petrol.
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There's a review out on Overdrive which isn't looking good. http://overdrive.in/reviews/abarth-595-competizione-review/. I am no expert and can't comment on accuracy. Posting it for experts out here to comment and in the process, learn more.
Sheesh. These guys don't even understand what an single-clutch amt is on a sports, or any, car. It IS a manual, the same manual they loved driving!
If you want to race, use the manual mode/paddles, and when pottering in the city, use the auto function. Easy to grasp one would've thought, but they have in their heads that not shifting gears and yet getting fast shifts, is the only way, i.e., twin clutches, nevermind the far higher costs of purchase and of gearbox mainitenance (this last a big deal on fast sports cars).
Criticize it or rather note that a dual-clutch of say 8 speed tc gearbox would'v been better from their point of view, but at least do so properly by having the elementary sense of what an amt setup is, and with what possible strengths/benefits, including of 'feel and character, namely that of a manual', to some.
I guess these kid-reviewers don't have to buy any of the cars they review, so. Not that the senior ones like ms. K or mr. H sorabji of Autocar have to either.
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