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  1. livelyyoungman

    livelyyoungman Regolare

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    Chapter 10:

    As mentioned before, it was time for elimination. Among the shortlisted vehicles, I was already driving the ANHC. So I did not contact any of the dealers regarding this and this made a direct entry to the final list.

    The next thing that I felt is easier to understand was SX4 and hence kicked off the hunt from that. There are no shortages for Maruti showrooms in India and Chennai being a Metro City, showrooms just galore. I contacted a couple of dealers here to understand if they had the BSIV version of the vehicle. Though it was end of June 2010, none of them whom I contacted had. I had to wait for this.

    In the mean time I thought of checking with Hyundai. As mentioned before, I had a wonderful experience with my Santro. My entire family (both extended and immediate) was against me purchasing Santro due to Maruti stigma. I defied this and proved to everyone that Hyundai vehicles are as good as that of Maruthi (in fact I see that they are much better). Having built a good rapport with HMP, I looked no beyond for TD of Verna and i20.
  2. PaddleShifter

    PaddleShifter Staff Member Janitor

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    I have been controlling myself not to post here until you complete all the chapters. I am following your thread at CarWale where you have written similar chapters and still haven't yet finished. ::T
    Eagerly awaiting to see the whole book. Innovative method of writing an ownership thread chapter wise. :car
  3. Rajen

    Rajen Regolare

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    Your ownership writing is one of the best I have ever seen/read. Awaiting for the balance chapters.
  4. livelyyoungman

    livelyyoungman Regolare

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    Thanks for the compliment. Both CarWale and this thread would be updated simultaneously.
  5. livelyyoungman

    livelyyoungman Regolare

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    Chapter 11:

    It was over a weekend that I walked into HMP for a TD of the new Verna. Knowing persons there helped me to collect all the details. So nothing to say with respect to pre-sales. Did a TD and walked out. Views below:

    Verna Transform is best described as “Old Wine in New Bottle”. Everything same, but for some few cosmetic changes; for the first time I felt Hyundai did not deliver. Things that I noted are as follows:

    • Good interiors[/*:m:2encs1t3]
    • No airbags[/*:m:2encs1t3]
    • Wheel base of just 2500mm[/*:m:2encs1t3]
    • Adequate Power[/*:m:2encs1t3]
    • Ride quality OK[/*:m:2encs1t3]
    • No bluetooth [/*:m:2encs1t3]
    • Good A.S.S[/*:m:2encs1t3]
    With nothing big to offer by this car, it went off my list straight. A.S.S was the only face saver Hyundai. Hyundai expected the sales of Verna to head north
  6. nk4FIAT

    nk4FIAT Superiore

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    Nice car selection review.
    detailed comparison with almost 99% true points.
    eager to read Linea ownership review , driving experinces and of course good photosessions!!!
    Keep it up!!!
  7. livelyyoungman

    livelyyoungman Regolare

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    Chapter 12:

    After the disappointment with Verna, I was a bit skeptical about i20. Going by the looks she was great. Together with the features made me think otherwise. Again only HMP was in my list. Called them and asked for a BSIV vehicle. A big “NO” was the prompt reply. It was here that I started to lookout for other Hyundai dealers. With none of them having a BSIV vehicle, I had to settle down with a TD on a top end BSIII variant only. All I could see was the BSIV variant as a showroom piece.

    It was time for TD and I went in for the same. The first impression I got was the seats were tad low when compared to my Santro. Added to this, the deep clutch coupled with low steering column made my driving totally uncomfortable. I had to spend good amount of time in adjusting the seat height as well as the steering to get into a good driving position that would not hurt my leg. With this as the feedback to the SA, I requested the guy to get the vehicle home so that I can try parking it in my garage. This would also assist me to get the car fully loaded with adults. I drove the petrol version when I visited the dealer and requested for the oil burner to be brought to my residence.

    That day ended with some satisfaction. I had to wait for a couple of days more for the car to land to my house.

    It was a Thursday on which the TD car was supposed to visit my place and it did too. The car, SA along with a driver and booking form landed at my place. Little did the SA know that I had few more cars in my kitty to try before deciding to buy one.

    My family was ready in no time for a quick ride and it was a real fun. I navigated the roads keeping in mind the rules that I had set for a TD and parked the car in my garage as well. The inputs gathered were:

    • It required greater skill from my part to park the i20 in my garage due to challenging parking conditions along with low seat positions[/*:m:1vxv9mci]
    • Power train was pretty good when compared to the Petrol sibling[/*:m:1vxv9mci]
    • Excellent safety features - only car to provide six airbags[/*:m:1vxv9mci]
    • Good all round build[/*:m:1vxv9mci]
    • Very light steering[/*:m:1vxv9mci]
    • Good all round space utilization.[/*:m:1vxv9mci]
    • Diesel not a VFM. Add a lac to the top end model results in a Sedan.[/*:m:1vxv9mci]
    • Felt braking was better in Petrol than in Diesel (this is to be with both front and rear Disc brakes)[/*:m:1vxv9mci]
    • ICE Ok and no Bluetooth.[/*:m:1vxv9mci]
    After the TD the SA was very particular to get the order. With some convincing he left my place pretty disappointed.
  8. livelyyoungman

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    Chapter 13:

    I generally have a habit of brainstorming before finalizing. For this to happen, I needed at least a couple of cars that have been shortlisted. Though there were a few tradeoffs with i20 I had partially nodded in its favor; anyways my mind always advised me otherwise.

    One of my friend's works for Ford. He always wanted me to test the new Figo before deciding on any hatch. He said Figo means VFM. Additionally he advised me against the current Fiesta for the fact that this old workhorse from the Ford stable was getting into its new Avatar shortly. With this one more option was trimmed and both the Fiesta siblings went out of my list even without a TD.

    To talk about Figo it is a small frame car. It does not draw any excitement. It is pretty docile. Looking at it closely during one of my halts behind it at a traffic signal, I realized that Ford had smartly reused a lot of its Fusion stuffs in Figo. Not to get into a premeditated state of mind before TD, I visited MPL Ford. It was always the diesel one that I was gunning for if Figo.

    Pre-sales experience

    Hardly a couple of minutes into the showroom a SA approached me for providing me assistance. Being a Fiesta specialist he referred me to a Figo guy. Figo had drawn pretty much crowd and a good number of people were waiting for a TD. I asked some of the basic questions that any Rama, Krishna or Sita would ask and requested him to get the car to my residence.

    I should say that Ford has improved vastly on its presales. All people there were pleasing and willing to assist. They were pretty careful that none of the prospects were left unattended. If the SA does not have the necessary answers for any of the questions, he/she was willing to get it clarified at the earliest. And of course the clarifications did come.

    TD Experience

    Figo came to my home as promised and it was time for a short ride. It went on the expected lines. Inferred the following:

    • Fiesta A/C proved its mettle[/*:m:l98z4wxn]
    • Slightly outdated engine - its a 8V SOHC engine[/*:m:l98z4wxn]
    • Bluetooth connectivity[/*:m:l98z4wxn]
    • ICE Ok[/*:m:l98z4wxn]
    • Smart space utilization[/*:m:l98z4wxn]
    Overall my family liked the car. It was here the brainstorming session started.
  9. livelyyoungman

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    Chapter 14: Out goes both the hatches

    Whenever there is a need of decision making I wear a green hat and start brainstorming. It was needed now to decide between i20 and Figo.

    i20 won the following rounds

    • Build quality[/*:m:1y4nlbd0]
    • Safety features[/*:m:1y4nlbd0]
    • All four power windows[/*:m:1y4nlbd0]
    • Overall ride quality[/*:m:1y4nlbd0]
    Figo definitely did not lag behind

    • A VFM product[/*:m:1y4nlbd0]
    • A good diesel engine though slightly outdated[/*:m:1y4nlbd0]
    • Getting a diesel at the price of i20 petrol[/*:m:1y4nlbd0]

    With safety and build favoring i20, Figo went out of contention. Please note that I am not trying to portray that Figo is a bad car. It is just that it did not meet my requirements.

    Now the contest was between a diesel or petrol i20. For the first time I used the XLS that I had published to understand the total landing cost. I filled up all the columns only to find that even if I put in 15K kilometers per annum, the oil burner turned out to be costlier than the gasoline sibling. The CRDI was not profitable even after 5 years of ownership. This was primarily due to high initial cost. Added to this, by adding a lac more to the top variant of i20 diesel I jump a segment. Though i20 was an excellent car, two factors negated its stand - seat position and steering column. Other than these two, my flair for diesel closed doors for i20 Petrol and high cost of ownership undid the diesel.

    NOTE:

    FE was calculated for i20 Petrol as 11 and 16 for city and highway driving. For diesel it was at 14 and 20 respectively. Loan tenure was for 5 years at 10% reducing balance ROI.
  10. livelyyoungman

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    Chapter 15:

    With two hatches and two sedans being ruled out time was ripe to check out the remaining. It was SX4 that started knocking my doors again. By the time I had done away with the hatches, I had got a call from Popular a local Maruti dealer that they had a BS IV SX4 demo vehicle. I fixed an appointment and went for the TD.

    Presales and TD

    As I reached the showroom it was bustling with activity. I was attended promptly and checked for Ravi the SA whom I had spoken with. As he was busy, I had to wait for some time before he could attend me.

    After some basic formalities, it was time for TD. The vehicle came but did not conquer. But for the manly stance, it did not create an impression in my mind. Swift like build quality, bad ICE and light steering (read as electronic power steering) did not work out in its favor. 190mm of GC worked wonders as it negotiated speed breakers with ease. Good mid range helps in overtaking but overall felt that a bit more tweak to the engine would have made the drive really enjoyable. ABS is pretty good as well. I completed the test drive and walked into the showroom only to find the SA ready with an order book. Even without my probing for details, he delved into the 50K cash discount detail and the car's FE of 14 kmpl in typical city driving conditions.This clearly indicated his desparation to get the booking. I had to cut him short by requesting him to get the car to my residence so that I can try my hands in parking it; after this I returned home.

    In the mean time one of my friends traded his Scorpio for a new SX4 Automatic. And it was TD time once again. I drove it and found few more niggling issues. For e.g. I was not satisfied with the joystick that adjusted the ORVMs. It was very painful to get the position of the ORVMs right. ICE Speakers not even performed satisfactorily. No wonder the sales team pitched a lot with offers and discounts. Considering that this vehicle was the auto version FE of 9 was tolerable. But still, I was skeptical on the FE of this car.

    I do not understand why Maruti ships this car with JK tyres. The tyres lack the road grip and increased the noise levels. This I felt more when I drove the SX4 on our highways.

    Though I was off SX4, I waited for the car from the dealer for a final TD with my entire family before closing the doors fully.

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