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ICE Considerations

Discussion in 'In Car Entertainment' started by johnny, Jan 17, 2011.

  1. Phew

    Phew Esperto

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    New Delhi/Mohali
    FASS
    Grande Punto 1.3
    Have no fear phew is here :p

    As johnny sir had mentioned in the starting of this thread tht ice is a mixture of all the components, so calling the hu/comps or the others factors inadequate is not a very wise statement on the sellers part.

    Having heard the stock system the factor tht lacks more than the other are the speakers and not the HU. taking the sellers advise is always good but then u must decide after hearing, as u might have a different prefference to the seller.

    No idea whether or not the stock HU sheds out 18 wrms, but do note tht it depends on how cleanly is tht power being produced. Two amps can give the same power but the way they give it depends on the setup, so even if the stock HU or 117 give 18 wrms, the alpine delivers it far more cleanly and efficiently, thereby giving better results. Also important to note is the quality of components used in the HU.

    My choice would be to go with the stoch HU + Better comps with tweeter mounted on the pillar and not in stock location.

    Harmony & chaos
  2. baska

    baska

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    Chennai
    Thanks johnny, Anoop and Phew !!. Now I get some idea of how to proceed further.
    Okay so here are another few questions (in detail)


    1) I decide to keep the stock HU, so for a decent sound quality all I need to do is - replace the existing speakers with components speaker (front) and coaxials (rear) along with a hi-low converter (if needed). For this setup is an amp required ?
    2) If amp is not required, will the same system gain sound quality later when I add an amp?
    3) can a 4 channel amp run only front components and a sub woofer ? considering there is no rear speakers / its powered by HU.
  3. Phew

    Phew Esperto

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    1,109
    New Delhi/Mohali
    FASS
    Grande Punto 1.3
    requirement of an amp depends upon ur need, so if u do add an amp it will a sound alot better as the there will b more control over the comps.

    Yes u can run the comps and sub on a 4 channel and power the rears with HU

    Harmony & chaos
  4. baska

    baska

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    Chennai
    So with a budget of 25k, is this possible?

    1) 4 channel Amp
    2) One pair of good component speakers
    3) Good Sub
    4) Wiring and other accessories

    I hope this is affordable. but I do not know how much damping will cost & how much the installer would demand for the above setup.
  5. anoop

    anoop Superiore

    I think if you choose your brands wisely, you can get it done inside 25K. The key is audition. Audition first before you plonk down your hard earned cash.
  6. Phew

    Phew Esperto

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    1,109
    New Delhi/Mohali
    FASS
    Grande Punto 1.3
    Yes u can pretty much get a setup.close to tht price

    Amp - 7k/10k (kenwood/bull)
    Comps - 5-6k/7-8k (hertz dsk/esk)
    Sub - 3-4k (jbl 8"/10"/12")
    Wiring - 2k (scosche)
    Hi-low - 3k
    Sub box - 1k(mayb)

    So total comes to be between
    21k/26k

    Harmony & chaos
  7. baska

    baska

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    Chennai
    Phew, thanks for your input.
    I shall build my ICE on this.
  8. johnny

    johnny Regolare

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    Greater Noida
    Greater Noida
    Grande Punto 1.3
    @Anoop,

    You could be right about the output of the HU. As I remember, one of our forum members had taken the HU apart, and he had given a figure - I thought it was 18 WRMS.

    Regards
    Johnny
  9. baska

    baska

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    Chennai
    anoop, your suggestion is also good. I'll extend my budget now. I'll have to wait till diwali is over.
  10. omzworld

    omzworld

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    ICE makeover for Punto Emotion

    My month old Punto's sound system is not upto my taste! I thought of living with it for a year but 1 long trip to COORG and I am convince I wont stand it for another long trip.
    Sound quality might be ok for a causal listener (city drivers) and he might as well like it, but someone haivng 1000W RMS Panasonic SA-PT 470 hometheeatre at home, galaxy S with voodoo sound + Brainwavz M2 for personal entertainment, sound quality is bad!
    As you might see all my audio systems are VFM stuff. My ICE consideration here will have same criteria - VFM.

    For HU change I am trying to procure a JVC unit with all bells and whistles and good sound from US:
    http://www.amazon.com/JVC-Color-Illumination-Single-DIN-Flip-Down-Bluetooth/dp/B001PLBWUK/ref=sr_1_17?s=car&ie=UTF8&qid=1318732840&sr=1-17
    or
    http://www.amazon.com/JVC-Color-Illumination-Single-DIN-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B0037N7R58/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_1
    Features:
    1. Customizable illumination
    2. Bluetooth - For calling and streaming (A2DP)
    3. Separate Mic for calling
    4. USB, AUX, Remote, IPod, IPhone connectivity
    5. Price - $140-150 (Rs 7000)

    Next is speakers:
    I am completely lost here. 5.25" or 6.5"? I am thinking of procuring a set of compos from US as well. Some considerations:
    Compos
    http://www.amazon.com/Kenwood-Kfc-P709Ps-6-5-Inch-Performance-Component/dp/B0037PH2CY/ref=sr_1_6?s=car&ie=UTF8&qid=1318734927&sr=1-6
    http://www.amazon.com/Alpine-SPS-610C-Type-S-Component-Speakers/dp/B004THAWHG/ref=sr_1_8?s=car&ie=UTF8&qid=1318733320&sr=1-8
    http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-DB5251-5-25-Inch-Component/dp/B000P0PFA0/ref=sr_1_29?s=car&ie=UTF8&qid=1318735072&sr=1-29
    http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Reference-6030cs-6-5-Inch-Component/dp/tech-data/B002BS5YAA/ref=de_a_smtd Is it worth the moolah????

    CoAxials
    http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-5-25-Inch-Coaxial-Speakers/dp/B000P0PF8C/ref=sr_1_1?s=car&ie=UTF8&qid=1318735530&sr=1-1 Worth it without Amp?
    http://www.amazon.com/KICKER-5-25-COAXIL-SPEAKERS-PAIR/dp/B004K57Q8A/ref=sr_1_4?s=car&ie=UTF8&qid=1318735763&sr=1-4


    Total budget for speaker - 6K
    Total for HU - 7K
    Sound deadening & instal - 4k?

    Please help!

    Anyone willing to buyback my entire set - Stock HU + speakers. I would give for 4K.

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