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A/C on with 5 people+luggage while climbing isn't an issue with 75 HP. Obviously it won't equate to a single occupant's situation & will sound less relaxed but it's a very capable machine. It's rather easy for MJD, i would say. What better way to conclude that it's mileage will hardly drop by 1 km/ltr with all that extra load & A/C on. It's not working that extra hard that total added weight seems to portray. It's state of the art & very advanced engine so not surprised for Ambassador diesel at all. Such cars are in-fact dangerous in Ghats when overloaded. Reason is with less power, if some has to stop at steep inclination & loose inertia, they may start rolling back & situation can get out of hands. I have heard that a lot in old diesel vehicles & especially bus/trucks.

Is that swift is petrol one? Diesel shouldn't face this issue at all else there could be something wrong with maintenance of swift. These engines come out flying colours in toughest situation imaginable.

 

Yep, it was a petrol swift.

Regarding the ambassador, i think you are right, my uncle used to say we shouldn't move any further on car and we used to get down from the ambassador before ~ 1 KM from the temple as the stretch was very sleepy

 

So many pages of discussion and you're still confused.

There is sufficient power in Punto to drive in ghats, but what I like in the 90 is the top grunt for overtaking power is available at the tap of foot. Ofcourse it depends how many times you will be over 100 within city. Pick the 90 you'll never regret, 75 is also a equally good one.

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@Teky: I would love to intimate FIAT's aspects to a curious about FIAT person. I think if Sundar wants to know more & more, keep it feeding until he realizes & become one of us. For an outsider, obviously it's a different sight altogether & that where our role become critical.

Then obviously it will be hopeless. See this is where FIAT shines. I have driven Dzire petrol with 6 people (intentionally) to make up for that extra luggage weight. It doesn't need ghat's to struggle. With full throttle, i was struggling to catch 50 km/hr in 2nd gear. Engine was too stressed. Where the hell were those 90 horses..!! It felt like M800 with 42 HPs. Once you take over the inertia hurdle & get it 40-50 km/hr, it won't stop when you want it to. I mean brake fades drastically to unbelievably poor situation. I had to repeatedly pump it's brake pedal to build pressure. Emergency brakes were not existing! worst of all, it was lagging it's steering by full 2-3 secs. It was ridiculous. It was trying to follow the steer that i made 2 secs earlier & don't need that now. I could hear steering "what are you doing you idiot, don't try anything but a straight line". I felt Steering bloody useless. Why not a Joystick there:dancing?

All these observations i have mentioned in my introduction thread only. Your uncle wasn't wrong at all. For Punto, i would say, yes engine will feel less relaxed after additional 500 kg weight, but never stressed. Nothing like brake fading or loose the steering/decreased sensitivity. You can pass moose test even with 5 people. I personally like my Punto most when there are 3 people on board. It maintains an ideal combination for all the bests in Punto.

May be it could be a bit surprising but that's what i have observed in punto. Brakes work best in Punto when there are 3-4 occupants in it. Notice it from here-on.

For summary, If i would have been you & don't mind extra rs. 40000, i would go for 90 HP. You have a psychological advantage if nothing else. Now when i described hell of a lot, even we are surprised at times & keeps learning stronger aspects that were never known before to us.

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Ramjn, That's insane. @140-150 in ghat's & FE over 18kmpl..::OO!!
These MJD''s are more than their stats, aren't they? Engines with more torque & power would be challenged. How to show endurance into stats.
The vortex these little cubs (MJDs) created also walloppedd a T jet in it, unknowingly:mrgreen:. That's why i throw all the stats to trash when it comes to MJD. Wonderful write up by you guys there! keep rocking!

 

Kiran, I also saved a very innocent & cute puppy 2 days back. He jumped from the divider suddenly & wasn't seen until he was 4-5 feet away due to it's small size. Fortunately i was@40-50 km/hr & felt that ABS violent pulse in brake pedal. I think the bumper just kissed the little puppy & it rolled over but not with a deadly hit. Wasn't hurt at all. There comes 3-4 yr kid to lap the puppy. It was a pet. I also got down & It was safe/sound without any scratch though a little terrified. Had a fruity bottle from a near by shop & served in a cup to confused & scared puppy. Well, it became friend in no time.

These are odd little incidences that fills the sea-full of love, respect & passion in one's subconscious for their vehicle & one may never know until the day he is tinkered by someone to let is out. Had there been my old zen-lxi or any other car for that matter, i would be guilt of killing an innocent puppy. I hate it when i imagine that.

 

Kiran,
ABS with EBD would have reduce the number of inches.

might be EBD works here..
Electronic Brake froce Distribution (EBD) - Toyota New Zealand - YouTube