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Discussion in 'Car Purchase Queries' started by drnpunto, May 2, 2011.

  1. PaddleShifter

    PaddleShifter Staff Member Janitor

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    Chandigarh
    Grande Punto 1.3
    Let's have a comparison of turbo lag/in gear acceleration capabilities and out right acceleration (Out right acceleration = red-lining your car = abusing it in day to day driving)

    OUTRIGHT ACCELERATION (0-100kmph in seconds):

    Fiat Palio 1.6 Petrol -------------- 11.9 secs
    Hyundai i20 1.4 Diesel ------------ 13 secs
    Honda Jazz 1.2 Petrol ------------- 13.29 secs
    Hyundai Getz 1.3 Petrol ----------- 14.47 secs
    Skoda Fabia 1.4 Diesel ------------ 14.95 secs
    Hyundai i20 1.2 Petrol ------------ 15.21 secs
    Ford Figo 1.4 Diesel -------------- 16.26 secs
    Skoda Fabia 1.2 Petrol ------------ 16.26 secs
    Ford Figo 1.2 Petrol ----------------16.36 secs
    FIAT Punto 1.3 Diesel 90Hp-------- 16.40secs
    VW Polo 1.2 Petrol -----------------16.5 secs
    Fiat Punto 1.4 Petrol -------------16.58 secs
    Hyundai Getz 1.1 Petrol ------------ 17.7 secs
    Fiat Punto 1.3 Diesel 75hp------- 17.84 secs
    Fiat Punto 1.2 Petrol --------------18.16 secs


    DRIVEABILITY/TURBO LAG/IN GEAR ACCELERATION:

    -----------------------------(30-80 in 3rd gear)
    Fiat Palio 1.6 Petrol ---------------- 11.9 secs
    Fiat Punto 1.3 Diesel 75hp------ 12.57 secs
    Skoda Fabia 1.2 Petrol ------------- 13.35 secs
    Ford Figo 1.4 Diesel ---------------- 13.45 secs
    Skoda Fabia 1.4 Diesel ------------- 13.76 secs
    Fiat Punto 1.4 Petrol --------------- 14.11 secs
    Honda Jazz 1.2 Petrol ---------------14.26 secs
    Hyundai Getz 1.3 Petrol ------------ 15.12 secs
    Fiat Punto 1.2 Petrol --------------- 15.27 secs
    Hyundai i20 1.4 Diesel -------------- 15.51 secs
    Hyundai Getz 1.1 Petrol ------------ 16.31 secs
    VW Polo 1.2 Petrol ----------------- 16.83 secs
    Ford Figo 1.2 Petrol ---------------- 16.84 secs
    Hyundai i20 1.2 Petrol -------------- 16.98 secs

    --------------------------------(40-100 in 4th gear)
    Fiat Punto 1.3 Diesel 90hp-------- 15.03 secs
    Fiat Punto 1.3 Diesel 75hp-------- 15.22 secs
    Maruti Ritz 1.3 Diesel ----------------- 15.36 secs
    Ford Figo 1.4 Diesel ----------------- 16.36 secs
    Skoda Fabia 1.4 Diesel --------------- 16.49 secs
    Fiat Palio 1.6 Petrol -------------------18.7 secs
    Hyundai i20 1.4 Diesel -----------------19.01 secs
    Fiat Punto 1.4 Petrol ------------------ 19.53 secs
    Honda Jazz 1.2 Petrol------------------ 20.27 secs
    Skoda Fabia 1.2 Petrol ----------------- 21.17 secs
    Hyundai Getz 1.3 Petrol ---------------- 21.26 secs
    Fiat Punto 1.2 Petrol ---------------- 21.72 secs
    Hyundai i20 1.2 Petrol ------------------ 22.23 secs
    VW Polo 1.2 Petrol ---------------------- 23.04 secs
    Hyundai Getz 1.1 Petrol ----------------- 25.58 secs
    Ford Figo 1.2 Petrol --------------------- 26.65 secs
    Last edited: May 2, 2011
  2. jayadev

    jayadev Esperto

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    Kannur, India
    Kannur
    Grande Punto 1.3 90 HP
    spare me if i am wrong ...
    where is punto 90hp among these .
    and i am very sure the above mentioned specs for 1.3mjd diesel punto is not right for p90hp.
    punto90hp can do 0-100 in less than 14sec.
    evidence: i tried myself.
  3. PaddleShifter

    PaddleShifter Staff Member Janitor

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    2,697
    Chandigarh
    Grande Punto 1.3
    @Jayadev- My bad. I have updated those figures with 75hp tag. I don't have data for 90Hp as I had read this on Bhp once and 90Hp had not yet launched. Even 75Hp Punto is beating the hell out of FIGO and i20, the perceived enthusiasts' cars.

    Edit- I have updated 90Hp from autocar India. 30-80 in 3rd gear is still not available.
    http://www.autocarindia.com/firstdrive/grande-punto-90hp
    Last edited: May 2, 2011
  4. this thread is going offtopic guys.............

    paddleshifter
    thanks for the information on the i20
  5. jayadev

    jayadev Esperto

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    Kannur, India
    Kannur
    Grande Punto 1.3 90 HP
    paddleshifter,i repeat the info you have provided about punto 90hp is still not true. this is a fiat forum and we should bring the truth in here at least. let us not rely on those corrupt automotive medias. bsmotor has stated hyundai i20 does 0-100 in 11.2secs .

    not off topic but the information does clear out suspicion regarding performance in punto.
    the above info is more than an year old which made me confident enough to go for punto.

    people has benchmarked punto as slow car and many have ruled out punto and opted for i20 .
    even i was being convinced by my well wisher that the best performer is i20 when i was up to grab punto.

    thankfully i was thoughtful enough to remember the saying "a book cannot be judged by its cover" .

    so here i am a happy punter...!!!

    rule out all those false allegations and misconceptions hovering over punto and one will realize how good a car punto is compared to its competitors.

    wonderful braking ,well built and fuel efficient.
  6. drnpunto

    drnpunto

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    MK-Ludhiana
    Thanks for your bunch of replies TFi-ians in such a short span of time.

    -Considered Polo only due to its looks, exceptional quality & ours family liking but I'm strictly against 3-cylinder engined car, just being annoyed of them due to its Uneven NVH levels.
    So that's why Skoda Fabia & VW Polo are totally out now.

    -i20 is only under consideration but its Unsolved Steering Rattle issue is enough to keep me away from it.
    Only hope is from its upcoming 2011 updated version, which might get this issue resolved but No further plans ahead on this after looking at Hyundai's non-ending Silence on this issue.

    -So, Automatically Punto comes out to be the frontrunner in my wishlist.

    Its still in the Nascent stage & hope it'll not grow up further.
    Its reason being its Past of Niggling Issues like Clutch Slave cylinder, Uneven panel gaps with average fit-finish turned its enthusiast off in me after its launch.
    But after Punto 90HP launch heard & even read that all Quality issues with the Punto are vanished now.
    But its the time & experience which can heal these doubts.

    So currently & precisely speaking, I'm satisfied with the TD of the car(done 2-days back) & even checked out again today at Fiat dealership with my friend(he also gave Green signal to it),
    but the Real question is that,
    'Is this car is Really Reliable, trouble free & can be trusted enough(unlike before) to be brought to anywhere to tackle Indian conditons !!'

    & Also what's the Practical difference in 90HP & 75HP Punto(except Power figures) for which it can be opted over Punto Emotion Pk 75HP in Real-life purposes.
    As ACI have also quoted in their TD-report that its FE difference is much more prominent than Acceleration figures.

    l'll bit O.T: But my I kow how's the Tata-Fiat's dealers response in Ludhiana, especially Dada Motors Ltd's.
    Ludhiana-ites can you please throw some light on this.
    Last edited: May 3, 2011
  7. Ichimaru

    Ichimaru Regolare

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    Gurgaon, India
    FIAT's are MORE THAN CAPABLE of handling Indian conditions!

    The 90HP version comes with the VGT which is obviously a better technology.
    The NVH are less.
    More power (and better FE) would come in handy specially when on highways.
    Even on ghats and inclines, 90HP would pull better than 75HP..
    Last edited: May 3, 2011
  8. Ichimaru

    Ichimaru Regolare

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    Gurgaon, India
    In that case, according to BSM, Punto 90HP reaches 100 in 15.5 seconds. :)
  9. jayadev

    jayadev Esperto

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    Kannur, India
    Kannur
    Grande Punto 1.3 90 HP
    additional 15bhp means more power for remaining things like AC head lamps horns audio system.
    which translates into reliable operation of same as promised, chilling ac ,engine never underpowered ,no overheating.
    moreover vgt technology is somehow more silent than fgt.
    the diesal clatter is much less outside and remains almost unheard inside. most of the time just turbo whine is heard .

    less vibrations means more rigidity to fixings and panels ,chances of rattles,falling apart etc are much reduced and above all luxurious comfort for those riding inside.

    comparatively vgt FE is better than fgt as turbo drive is linear .
    there is no sudden attack of turbo spooling post 2k rpm which raise fuel consumption suddenly.

    punto 90 hp can return a FE of 26-28kmpl if driven consciously under 1800rpm and of course can return less than 12kmpl for harsh driving (vgt nature).

    other than general niggles which almost all car in the world suffers from time to time i think present day fiat india car are resolved and brilliant products.

    built tough: will realize this fact when you jump over a big speed bump or gush through a huge pothole. all you would hear is thuddd.

    but in other competitive cars you will sure hear thudddd plus cling clang cluck click too.( i did not just mean rattling but something more than that too).

    anything better than punto 90hp is fiat bravo..but it is not here yet.
  10. shashanknathani

    shashanknathani Superiore

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    Pune
    Even though i drive a Petrol Punto but i guess i can answer this question quite well... I drove the car myself from Hyderabad to New Delhi with two breaks at Nagpur and Gwalior...
    Driving figures were,
    Day 1: 500
    Day 2: 750
    Day 3 (after some break in gwalior): 350

    I did not face even a flat tyre forget about other issues... Coming to handling indian conditions, the car managed the horrible Andhra Pradesh-Maharashtra border which is quite famous among people travelling in that area and then sustained the roads between Nagpur and Seoni (Pench National Park Road) which is in horrible state as Mr. Jairam Ramesh has ordered no construction of new roads in that area (forest conservation). Then The car managed the Jhansi-Gwalior route which is presently under NHAI and the four laning is in progress... Trust me there were patches where there were no roads and just gravels with huge huge crators.

    In the end I would say FIAT cars need a little bit of pampering in initial days and they are the best in the market in the price range that FIAT offers.
    Decision on buying a Punto is purely your decision but i can assure you that trust the car for its reliability and ability to handle the worst.

    We do have few more examples here like Ravi Sir, Mahesh Natarajan and few others who have travelled many states in their FIAT's and did not face any issues.

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