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Discussion in 'Avventura 1.3 90 HP' started by Tornado, Feb 1, 2015.

  1. prabhjot

    prabhjot Esperto

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    @acechip

    Let's say you're right. Now consider 3 other brilliant ad/tvc-s they ran, full of 'desi' wit: the hilarious one for the Linea classic, the one where the fiat owner picks up his condescending nri friend from the airport in his Linea, and the one featuring an impish young Mumbaikar slyly calling attention to the fact that Maruti-s diesels are in fact Fiat's and the new independent FASS. Did they 'work' at all? No.

    The fact that a car brand can advertize its way to any kind of sales success in India is surely a myth, as revealed by VW and Skoda's dismal, steeply dropping sales for the last 2-3 years DESPITE ad budgets many times the size and scale of even Hyundai and Honda and Maruti, let alone Fiat.

    J D Power has a survey-based study of advertizing in the Indian car market. It's on their website. It makes very clear that ad-campaigns have very weak sales results, if at all.

    I believe therefore that they need 'panga' even if 'senti' advertizing, instead: stuff that hits various cultural nerves and faultlines, edgy, delightfully and humourously or engagingly controversial, very 'spicy', very 'non-veg': just like some recent 'hatke' Hindi and Marathi etc films, ads that get talked about for themselves, and thereby call attention to the Fiat brand.

    It's well past the stage where one can expect advertizing of features or qualities or virtues to work.

    Like the 'Make the Move' ads, only much edgier?

    Hope they use the t-jet, abarth, amt? etc launches in this advertizing way. They must follow the Olivier Francois strategy for commercials in the US or the UK here too, just that the idiom and the 'panga'-s have to be more 'desi', that's for sure.
  2. acechip

    acechip Superiore

    1) VW/Skoda have built an air of arrogance around themselves. The supposedly "German superiority" myth. Their sales are not working out because the customer gets more than a whiff of the above when he reaches the showroom. Fiat sales are not working because people simply dont know much ! In my opinion, VW/Skoda and Fiat have different problems to solve. Fiat 's problems are a little more basic inspite of longer presence in the country.

    2) Those cutting edge ads will not work until Fiat really "gets" those cutting edge 1.6 MJDs/1.4 Multi Airs and whatnots for selling at the nearest showroom. Because the current Fiat products are not cutting edge by any yardstick.

    3) Maruti and Hyundai long made a name for themselves with their clever advertising before this whole JD Power survey scam became the in thing. So I wont take JD Power survey as the definitive indicator for marketing or for anything else. These are nothing but "tweaked" out number crunching models to suit the highest bidder on an annual basis. What matters is the real customer on the ground.
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  3. Tornado

    Tornado Superiore

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    Maruti sales figures are not at all a result of advertising. It is just a result of' herd 'mentality (to follow BLINDLY someone who you know, not necessarily know very well, kinda' Achhe Din' concept during recent general elections. The diesel was costing Rs 67 Rs /lit when international crude oil barell was costing $144 and now the diesel is costing Rs 54/lit when it actually should cost 30 Rs /lit as international crude oil prices have dropped to 1/3rd!!! ).


    Today, saw a VW toureg, it had apparently similar spare wheel opening mechanism as I could guess from outside.

    Anyways, back to my Avventura. err... Lovventura.

    Yesterday, Brakes kaput, rear tyre flat, she needs urgent visit to garage, said my son. I opened the front door, held her handle with one of my hand and put my left foot on the scuff plate area and right foot on the front seat and my son helped me picking up her. And in one go, I mounted his bicycle on the roof mounted bicycle rack. As I have misplaced the bicycle rack manual, I fixed it on trial and error method.
    Then we travelled towards the bicycle repair shop without any hassle and without any rattle attracting all the eyes on the road. We reached the bicycle repair shop & all of sudden the bicycle which was standing on the roof upright fallen sideways on the roof of the car, it didn't fallen on the ground because the wheels were firmly tied to the rack with belts meant for the same.
    I came out of the car and saw that the middle bar bracket of the bicycle rack which is meant for holding the bicycle upright had loosened its grip on the middle part of the chassis of the bicycle as I was not knowing how to tighten it properly allowing the bicycle to fall sideway. Then I saw a huge dent in the roof due to paddle of the fallen bicycle.

    I loosened the belts around the wheels of bicycle and took it down on the ground. And, Voila!!! the roof of the car regained it's original shape within no time, the dent disappeared.
    Unfortunately, I could not take any pics.
    Bicycle would be delivered morrow after all repair works, I will mount it again on the bicycle rack and post pics.


    Today, I went to the accessory shop and told the expert there that I feel that the SQ(treble & mid sounds) of the OE speakers is not good, though it was sounding very good during first few days of ownership. He told me that there is no problem with the speakers. It is the whopping amount of the bass produced by the Blaupunkt woofer which is proving the speaker SQ mediocre. Here are pics & specifications of the OE speakers 4faeb04d6e15646fddedac1cede03e5a.jpg
    d28e9b59187b6d67b2e48e347f2147c0.jpg OE speakers 25w,4ohm.
    043f70e7e3f2da3d699a03e8fe68d243.jpg fe8a5762104ef8783ac996274caab23c.jpg OE tweeters.



    We replaced the front two component speakers with Focal component speakers @9K INR as shown in the pics bellow 50d09bc6ec9b4204929e4f4401e5cc44.jpg
    61effb923ad60d686075ff2e6608114f.jpg 33589aee4962992b347ef75c348f7e95.jpg 260ecff4f25f08dcfa9385028916f636.jpg He said that amplifier is not needed and without amplifier also they will complement the woofer nicely.

    He also replaced the OE plastic door dampner @4k INR as he thought the there could be a rattle due to vibrations inside the doors 74be56ef2106158d00f15b148c6cde41.jpg with new one for front doors e1185ec1f718c6defb38cdb561740205.jpg bb90b13679f5984c6786e35b0aa58948.jpg @Rs 4k

    Meanwhile, the IRVM mounted rear view screen cum DVR was making rattling sound which has been removed now to open it and fix the rattle.


    Next on plan was Blaupunkt TPMS, but cost is 18K INR, so postponed, guys please suggest a good & cheap option.

    Next on plan was headlight upgrade. OE lights are enough for normal driving but for enthusiasts and for a driver like me who is always in hurry it is inadequate especially on Eway & highways where upcoming drivers especially truckers make me blind as they always run on highbeam.

    So tried this one, expected price was 22k INR only for headlights, fog lamp upgrade not needed 747c6c2d67805fdaa7b4293e2d5a0509.jpg 33a2c25180ec61b97b6707b23918398e.jpg but he couldn't dismantle the rear cover of the headlight required to fit them.

    And hence he suggested me to go for this one 6b11c32f904a0f7de48e451a75961419.jpg 4a53e901065d5e113891dc23af19d044.jpg

    Don't know, what to do. Please suggest.
  4. Tornado

    Tornado Superiore

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    Posting some pics of bicycle mounted on the rack. ae7b5f556413f611836926d8ae851471.jpg 67e31705766d0af3568fc17a9e2e0b28.jpg

    3246b3db7827078c17da750982acc065.jpg 8722e7d206e87c2e328548415eb74481.jpg 960ae70ff6b75052949cf51e89ab1f64.jpg ff82db5d9e2768dc349242a0e3d05d9d.jpg
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  5. asimpleson

    asimpleson Esperto

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    @Tornado, nice upgrade with the ICE. Great drivers those. Kindly ask your dealer how the HU can power these speakers with measly 15W or so power per channel when they are rated at 70W RMS. Its like setting a speed limit of 80kmph on an Autobahn. Please plan an amp. asap, you won't regret it. These are shallow mount for installation depth issues but very capable if provided the right amount of power. Hope the high pass low pass is set perfectly.

    For headlights there is a special thread IIRC. Please post again there. Philips extreme vision should be good if you are not planning extensive HL mods.
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  6. acechip

    acechip Superiore

    @Tornado, can you elaborate on the 'brakes kaput' part ? Sounds a bit serious.
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  7. Tornado

    Tornado Superiore

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    Thanks @asimpleson. I am planning HID, Projectors.

    @acechip, Yes, serious issue it was, brakes of the bicycle of my son had gone kaput and hence I had to transport her on the bicycle rack of Avventura.
    Brakes have been replaced now.
  8. Tornado

    Tornado Superiore

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    @asimpleson, the accessory man said, SQ would improve with amp but still you won't be fully satisfied and might require HU replacement to get full satisfaction, so he wants me to wait.

    Today , purchased a bicycle for my daughter. Posting some pics. 20150426_185744.jpg 20150426_185744.jpg 20150426_184657.jpg 20150426_184710.jpg 20150426_190848.jpg 20150426_190121.jpg 20150426_185849-1.jpg
  9. pabhishek

    pabhishek Esperto

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    You are the one guy who is using roof rails for the purpose they should be @Tornado :)
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  10. bharath

    bharath Regolare

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    @Tornado simply an eye candy :) ..I want to eat it !
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