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FIAT to supply its multijet engines to Maruti, Now to Premier also

Discussion in 'Fiat India News' started by nkrishnap, Aug 18, 2011.

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Should Fiat Supply its multijet engines to Maruti

  1. Yes

    51.8%
  2. No

    48.2%
  1. drifter

    drifter Regolare

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    I do understand your point. However, Fiat is not in the position to push anyone right now. Thankjs to the idiot in chief, Sergio Marchionne, Fiat is in dire straights. He forced his ideas through against everyone with common sense to make the Brera/Spyder and 159 a barge. This led that Alfa sales slumped from one year to the next to a third of its global sales to around 1,40,000. Despite launching an additional model. Alfa was on the brink of being closed down.

    Iveco, which is 49% Magirus and 51% Fiat had to be sold into independence. Lancia is not doing as well as expected.

    The DS3 is a big headache for the 500. Volkswagen is getting stronger and stronger and the return to the small segment is creating further headaches.

    Fiat has failed to look properly into India. The half hearted attitude leaving Ratan Tata often standing in the rain is the cause for what happens. The product philosophy for the Indian market is totally wrong.

    Fiat Turin was banking on it that the 500 will flood the Indian market. Now the car is withdrawn as it is a blunder. Waht Fiat should have done is getting the Panda produced in India, which is their most solid and reliable car in Europe. Maybe because it is built in Poland.

    The way Fiat Turin goes about India they need to sell to Maruti to stay in the market at all. Maruti can switch to other engines and it will not affect the sales. But Fiat would lose.

    Fiat has got no concept for India and Mr. Kapoor can't do anything about it. He would need to have authority to make product decisions. Sergio Marchionne is considered the idiot of the automotive world. As long as he is in charge of the Fiat group, forget any positive movement in the Indian market.
  2. jumu

    jumu Superiore

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    I only wish FIAT had extracted a service arrangement at MASS for the FIAT cars in exchange for this deal. That would have negated the raw feeling all of us have. Just my thought.

    Abdul
  3. Maruti is expecting to finalise a deal with Fiat to source diesel engine

    Maruti Suzuki India is expecting to finalise a deal with Fiat to source diesel engines in the next two months, which is likely to help it in increasing the production of its popular compact car Swift.“We are in discussion with Fiat for sourcing of diesel engines from their Ranjangaon plant. In fact, we are in fairly advanced stage and in two months time, we should see something on this,” Maruti Suzuki India (MSI) Chairman R. C. Bhargava told reporters here.He said the deal with Fiat was being worked out considering the fact that the company's main supplier Suzuki Powertrain India Ltd (SPIL) had reached its peak production capacity at the Manesar plant.“SPIL has a capacity of 25,000 units a month. It has attained the peak, so we are looking at Fiat,” he said.Asked how many engine the company is looking to source from Fiat, he said: “It would depend on the kind of capacity they can give us. It is just how much production Fiat can do at their plant.” Mr. Bhargava, however, said once the deal was finalised, Swift production would go up to about 20,000 units a month. Before the labour strike this month, the company was making about 18,000 units of Swift a month.“By January 2012, the production of Swift should go up to about 20,000 units a month. This has factored the engine supply that will come from Fiat,” he said.Fiat's Ranjangaon plant has a capacity to produce up to 3 lakh units of engines annually.Source http://www.thehindu.com/business/Industry/article2580428.ece



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  4. amit

    amit Superiore

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    As per reports, 80% of Swift sales are of the diesel which means 16,000 diesel Swift's will be sold every month from January 2012!

    Think about this:

    Maruti's Swift powered by Fiat's diesel has a demand of 16,000 cars every month with buyer's ready to wait for upto 6-8 months to get delivery with obviously no discounts being available while Fiat's Punto sits in dealerships offering mouth watering discounts and ready delivery but no one is ready to bite the bait.

    If this does not worry Fiat & make the Italian's sitting in Turin think then I don't know what one needs to shake them up. Maybe there are bunga bunga parties going on in the board rooms of Fiat S.p.A too.
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  5. srinivaschandalada

    srinivaschandalada Amatore

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    Grande Punto 1.3
    There is more to it than just 1.3 engines from fiat to power swifts , dezires, ritz and sx4 . There are also secret talks with fiat to bring in its sub 1000 cc diesel engines to power A-star, wagon r, omni,the new maruti 800 and eco. Fiat finds this deal of supplying sub 1000 cc diesel engines to maruti more attractive than bringing its own range of small cars with 1000 cc diesel engines.
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  7. kedarbendre

    kedarbendre Esperto

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    I think TATA should not allow to give MJD Engines to Suzuki cause of 50:50 partnership.

    MSIL will die if they wont get MJD engine from FIAT/TATA.

    Another option for them is the TDi Engines from VW group. TDi is less powered and has old technology as compared to the mighty FIAT MJD Engines. :)
  8. rana

    rana Novizio

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    I think this is a good bargaining point for Fiat against TATA... set the equation right in terms of giving FIAT more mileage for sales/service of its cars through the TATA network.
  9. :lol

    Right said, after Fiat will be the king in the market with MJD.

    Tata is feeling that If Fiat provided the engines to MSIL, there Vista sales may get effected (they are feeling, Swift waiting customers converted into Vista). thus they are opposing or shown non interest.

    For Fiat ... marta kaya na karta... MJD to dega hai, because they are sure... Swift waiting customer will not buy Punto.

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    :lol

    Right said, after Fiat will be the king in the market with MJD.

    Tata is feeling that If Fiat provided the engines to MSIL, there Vista sales may get effected (they are feeling, Swift waiting customers converted into Vista). thus they are opposing or shown non interest.

    For Fiat ... marta kaya na karta... MJD to dega he, because they are sure... Swift waiting customer will not buy Punto.
  10. Fiat want's more sales, more revenue, they have to provide the MJD to Maruti. No option left for Fiat, but every where is price hike, so they need to charge premium price from Maruti against MJD, it will be double hit to MSIL and more profit to Fiat. That profit, they should offer as discount to new customer, when price difference is there, they can convert the Swift waiting customer into Fiat Punto.
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