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Fiat Punto 90HP- the wise choice.

Discussion in 'Punto 1.3 MJD 90 HP' started by jayadev, Dec 22, 2010.

  1. jayadev

    jayadev Esperto

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    Grande Punto 1.3 90 HP
    13700km updates

    Gave her to free checkup camp in tata showroom. There was no much of issue except Dirt all over and Coolant level getting low (gradually) and rear wiper .
    Took the car in evening .
    1.The woman sitting at lobby gave me feedback papers before I saw the car and said it is just for a formality in which was checklist for quality of service ,cleaning,service satisfaction etc. i refused to fill before i see the car.
    2.Saw the my own DIY paint on mud flaps were Ripped off.
    3.Body mud was taken off but Black specks like that of tar were still visible all over the body.
    4. interior cleaning was average.
    5. coolant issue was fixed by changing hose connector and clip (charged rs 24 for clip.
    5.rear wiper fixed new for Rs.442.
    6.new issue had arisen,
    'Check glow plucg" in the mid, Se told me it was due to issue with glow plug timer which need to be replaced. I was completely loosing my temper and asked him, when i bought the vehical in morning everything was alright ,how come within 4 hours timer went off? he started to explain technical details etc whih did not comfort me.

    I said right now i am leaving and I will see to it soon.

    In night i went through the manual and and checked the fuse in fuse box. the 50 amp fuse was broken in fuse box...!!!!

    next day morning I blasted whoever came online to talk to me from tata motors ,receptionist ,service manager,sales excecutive ietc.

    By noon the same Service guy called me back apologizing and requested to allow him to take the vehical to SS and fix the issue. I said no i am thinking something simple like putting up a mail to Fiat in Maharashtra .
    I told him that I got the info from other resources about this issue is due to blown fuse which is shear mishandling from your side.
    I spoke to service manager and he was also like "it may have issues with glow plugs which came up when they resetted ecu while servicing." I asked him if I can have any trouble while in the way? to which he said NO. not at all in warm places like kerala, but in cold places like ooty you can have starting trouble in morning.
    So i said I cannot give you my car for servicing any recent and you can fix it in next service is it alright. he said perfectly alright.

    off late I have been experiencing bit of tighter clutch. No more butter soft as brand new one. How i discovered was i checked in brand new Punto90hp. it did not even feel under legs, Mine I need to push a bit not hard but not luxurious either.
    I showed it to service manager for which he said it seems just below "ok" there seems to be little bit of tightness. which could be due to pressure plates.
    I enquired if it would give issues like CSC failure or something ,for which he said no ,and I added then you can fix it in second service..he said yeah?
    Fiat niggles anyone??

    Front right Alloy rim is bit mashed . Bad roads in kerala ,unfortunate incidents!!!!
    Gave her for tire alignment ,mechanic said Be carefull about these roads ,go slow in potholes.Hmmm scary.!!!

    Still Going good.
    NVH has considerably improved.
    She had opened up very much . Very sweet(yes sweet) experience to drive. Smooth shifting,smooth pickup and nice feel.

    One funny incident.

    one of my friend who is bit of car enthusiast had a ride with me but he never heard or saw a fiat before...(very silly),He owned toytoa corolla and LC in Dubai and. We travelled around 80 km together in kerala roads. He was much happy to see integrated phone system and voice responce system. Then we arrived at fuel bunk, and i halted at diesal pump. I asked the lady to fill it while trying to see the guage which i couldnt and asked my friend to see if it is zero , he looked at it and started shouting ...hey ,hoy...huh ...stop stp..not diesal no not diesal.....!!! i was shocked to see a sudden reaction from him. The fuel lady also got scared sensing some misunderstanding. he turned to me and said this is diesal pump petrol is that one. i said this car drinks diesal not petrol. the fuel lady was waiting staring at us and asked bit harshly guys what do you want petrol or diesal. i said diesal.!!!
    I had an evil contended feeling inside me... LOL. I asked him what happened to you still in Dubai hangover?? He said No, I thought this car is petrol since i sat inside. it does not sound like diesal car. diesal cars will have more vibrations and noisy inside.
    With a grunt i answered "diesal cars in dubai must be noisy because they don't know fiat,in India it is very much different and better than petrol car." hehe.
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2011
  2. PaddleShifter

    PaddleShifter Staff Member Janitor

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    Chandigarh
    Grande Punto 1.3
    JD saab, nice update. And that incident with your Dubai friend is so nice to read. 90hp Punto and Linea MJD are definitely as silent as a petrol car. But 75hp Punto, yes you can make out it's a diesel by some margin.

    Wish I had gone for the 90hp but hey, my 90hp monogram is on the way. Placed an order on 12 August. :p
  3. shams

    shams Esperto

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    nice read jayadev!!
  4. jayadev

    jayadev Esperto

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    Grande Punto 1.3 90 HP
    Dear Yashik,
    What nice buddy? I am worried about my pressure plates and glowplugs...huh!!!

    Nice idea.Let us hope the Service guys replace the fgt with vgt accidently looking at the monogram.!!! those guys are very unpredictable.
  5. PaddleShifter

    PaddleShifter Staff Member Janitor

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    Chandigarh
    Grande Punto 1.3
    JD, my apologies. I was talking about the update regarding your experience at the fuel bunk only. It was so involving the way you wrote that I forgot the starting part.

    Would I be saying "NICE" if my fellow Fiatian is talking about some problem in the car?
  6. jayadev

    jayadev Esperto

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    Yashik, NO need of apologies please. I knew what you meant buddy. But i was just expressing my grouse because it is not giving me peace of mind.
  7. PaddleShifter

    PaddleShifter Staff Member Janitor

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    Chandigarh
    Grande Punto 1.3
    I understand. But also do keep in mind that the weightless luxurious feel of clutch (like that of a brand new FIAT car) decreases with time. I believe its the result of normal wear and tear?

    I am saying this based on personal experience of having driven new cars, as well as cars that have covered almost 40000km. The rate of wear will also depend upon the driving style. TD Punto MJD had a hard clutch at mere 12-13k on odo. Add to it, the clutch movement was not smooth but I could "FEEL" as it was being scratched while I pressed it and the vibration was transmitting to my sole. I don't know how to put it better.
  8. gurjinder

    gurjinder Staff Member Janitor

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    Jayadev did replacing the fuse remove the glow plug error?
  9. jayadev

    jayadev Esperto

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    OMG..That is what my issue is.

    It is not hard like other cars but not pleasing like brand new ones. It feels like brushing against some coarse surface. is there any solutions??
    and service manager also pointed out same , that with age there would be lose of softness which is quite normal. But he assured that he can open up the pressure plate , CSC and try to resolve .
    what i am seriously worried is should i go for it and bring a hell of other uninvited issues from tata service centre or just keep it like that. My heart doesnt say to keep it as it is.
  10. jayadev

    jayadev Esperto

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    I did not do that yet ,as i do not have spare ones.
    And i dont think it is good idea to replace it myself in case if problem is something else the fuse will blow again.

    what I did was check fuse visually and tested it in continuity tester. it was open. the 50 amps red one.

    If anyboy can confirm if it is just fuse due to mis-handeling by technician then i will sure test it with normal jumper wire and see.
    I am sure the SS wont admit the real cause.
    forgot to add. the "check glow plug" in mid remains on with glow plug indicator blinking for 5 seconds only after start , then it becomes normal.

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