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Discussion in 'Fiat India News' started by naveen2cool, Oct 31, 2012.

  1. asimpleson

    asimpleson Esperto

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    Yes, like you said along with the later product line-up and more engine options. We never know, they might also bring in the 2.0 or even a 2.4 for commercial applications if they find the buyers/partners.

    Actually doesn't seem soo much of an investment problem as much as the viability of demand/sales and more like a strategic decision to hold back not only on engines but the newer powertrains too in general.

    What is very clear is that a manufacturer like Maruti would have gone looking elsewhere too if Fiat would have refused to provide 1.6s and more. It means this decision is depending a lot on partner players.
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  2. Sagz

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    The Fiat releases the first teaser image of the sedan which is reported to be the international Linea replacement.
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  3. Sumit

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    Fiat plans to build a station wagon of this new linea 2017 version. This is really exciting. Fiat shud tap the ever growing MPV market. Products like ertiga and upcoming Chevy Spin are good examples of that. Its hard to understand why Fiat is such a sluggish company in India.
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  4. prabhjot

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    @Sumit

    Why are they so sluggish?

    Many, many reasons.

    But the two main ones are: the best products they have internationally cannot be offered here cost-competitively (relative to the pecking order of brand-pull/trust/prestige here) at the sort of conventional segment price-bands prevalent here, especially since they cannot and will not for ethical reasons dumb-down the engineering, component and build-quality standards the way the Japanese, the Korean and even VW have done/do/will do.

    They could only pull-off the task IF they had the HUGE export volumes to justify the aggressive localization of parts, which is the only way to meet the Indian market's severe price restrictions, given the brand's un-changeable engineering-specification DNA. That is what enables VW to survive in India, or Renault to do well with the Duster, or Nissan to experiment with low-cost cars, and Ford to try and compete head-on with Maruti, Toyota, Hyundai and Honda. Unfortunately, Fiat doesn't have export demand for Indian-made Fiats, given the geography of their markets and of their production capacities around the world.

    They appear to be centred on cracking this second problem with, initially, small Jeep exports and the 'New Avventura'/b-suv that is in their plan (late 2016, apparently), and then perhaps/presumably also the all-new Punto-replacement for 2017.

    They're pretty profitable from India already, so really given how good the current cars and engines are....sluggishness is no big deal, other than for some dealerships. I guess, though, that the pace will really pickup early 2016 onwards, through 2017?

    cheers
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  5. limraj

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    Fiat 500L among 15 new cars to avoid.
    http://www3.forbes.com/business/15-new-cars-to-avoid/5/
    Jeep Compass
    http://www3.forbes.com/business/15-new-cars-to-avoid/6/
    Jeep Patriot
    Jeep Wrangler
  6. prabhjot

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    Rubbish, American cultural preferences at work Vis a Vis the 500l, with its un-macho euro styling. It is the #1 seller in its b-mpv segment in Europe, there is no such segment in the usa. It has sold very poorly in the usa, being so unsuited to usa average tastes.

    The comments on the compass and patriot are irrelevant: these are about the really old models from well before the fiat Chrysler merger and are bargain basement priced models in the fca lineup in the usa, meant to supply rental fleets at ultra low cost and sub-prime credit challenged buyers. Sort of like the alto is to Maruti in India, or rather like the omni still is: profitable to offer only because they're so old and so poor as vehicles, I.e., cheap to build, cheap to sell.

    The new compass 2017 replaces both, at much higher prices, and with much higher margins, being Brazil and Mexico made, albeit with a usa built power train, and has been rather well received by the usa auto press (2017), and is a very very likely BIG seller there once it arrives for deliveries there soon.

    The wrangler IS the world's hardest core off roader suv: that its on road ride is harsh and handling un nimble is beside that point. It sells like anything in the usa! And actually is capacity constrained, never mind these observations.

    They're greatly expanding the Toledo ohio capacity for the all new lighter, more aluminium, with 8 speed auto and the bleeding edge alfa Romeo gme 2litre turbo petrol multiair DI + the Alfa 2.2 mjd2 etc wrangler launches in late 2017/early 2018. There will also be a wrangler pickup: another destined to be huge hit in the usa mkt.
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