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  1. VahanPujari

    VahanPujari Staff Member Janitor

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    I saw Yokohama AA as well as ES (Sport? ) Series also. ES series tyre looked meaty and the guy said it makes bit more noise like in racing cars ..!! :eek:
     
    VahanPujari, Jan 18, 2012
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  2. sungoa2010

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    What about the life of Micheline compared to bridgestone?
     
    sungoa2010, Jan 18, 2012
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  3. Jotinder

    Jotinder Regolare

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    Life as good as Bridgestone or even better, XM1+ is a very meaty tyre and very well build, u will see the difference in the build quality as soon as u see both tyre together, there is no comparison between them. Michelins are the best after that Yoko's, then CPC. Bridgestone dont even stand anywhere near these tyres.
     
    Jotinder, Jan 18, 2012
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  4. VahanPujari

    VahanPujari Staff Member Janitor

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    Michelin Primacy LC is one the options I considered or still considering. But heard they are softer and in our pothole filled road, that's a risk. My preference as I mentioned is that the road grip has to the fantastic, I'm not that sensitive to road noise. And it's here that I got very very good reviews about Bridgestone Potenza that it's grip is fantastic and one of the best in rainy/ wet condition.

    My preference is the Best road grip and lesser noise (ok if it's not super quiet).

    Which are the best alternatives for this?
     
    VahanPujari, Jan 18, 2012
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  5. Jotinder

    Jotinder Regolare

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    Michelin XM1+ (haven’t tried LC but should be comparable) has the best grip, i use three different cars with 3 different tyres everyday and Michelin is the best. I have used Protenza, nothing great about it. Whenever i drive on Michelin, i feel it’s in a different class altogether. I would be shifting to Michelin on my all cars. By the way softer rubber has better grip.

    As far as the side wall is concerned there is no problem even if the rubber is soft as the sidewall strength is due to the construction of the tyre. Michelin has the best build quality, compare yourself and you will understand.

    Last but not the least, Michelin are super quite and there life is as good as or even better than Bridgestone or any brand of tyre, so don’t fall for the trap from anybody that says soft tyre don’t last, Michelin do.

    Yoko and CPC are also good in terms of grip and noise. I say again Bridgestone dont stand anyplace in front of these tyres, this from a former Bridgestone fan who used to swear by bridgestone but now converted after using other tyres.

    Oh one thing i forgot, ride quality of Michelin is amazing, it need to be experienced, then you will believe.
     
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    Jotinder, Jan 19, 2012
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  6. vIjAy_kHaSa

    vIjAy_kHaSa Esperto

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    Primacy LC is a no no if grip is main criteria, they are comfort oriented tyres and they grip almost same as stock GY GT3 tyres. If you want grip try the Advan Neovas if you can find them anywhere. The stupid ISI mark rule imposed by govt of India have made those tyres disappear from market.
    Primacy LC is supersoft, one of my tyre developed bulge within a week and Michelin duly replaced it under warranty as a good will gesture which impressed me a lot. They are super silent and very comfortable, with 33 psi in all wheels the ride was just awesome. In comfort I would give them 10/10.
    Exchanged them with a friend of mine who wanted Primacy LC for his Punto and got his stock 500 kms run Apollo Acelere in place of my 3k run Primacy LC tyres. I always had a fear in my mind about Michelin Primacy LC blowing up after one tyre developed a bulge.
    Got the Primacy LC for 5.3k per tyre including balancing, alignment and fitting.
    Apollo Acelere's are good in grip, average in noise and ride comfort.
     
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    vIjAy_kHaSa, Jan 19, 2012
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  7. soccerfan

    soccerfan Regolare

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    Bridgestone Turenza ER 60 is a very good option. The CPC2 is rated very bad by TFIan Pran, whos using it in his Punto. Heard its dry grip is poor.

    All Bridgestone tyres are not bad. they make tyres which can match the range from JK (bad) to Michelin(best).
     
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  8. VahanPujari

    VahanPujari Staff Member Janitor

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    I am not much bothered about tyre life. Max 1.5 to 2 years and about another 40K kms post which I may upgrade the car.

    Hesitant for Primacy LC as I am a fast driver and do not slow down completely on potholes.
     
    VahanPujari, Jan 20, 2012
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  9. vijays777

    vijays777 Regolare

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    Wat about Yokohama Sdrive , My friend used in Elantra , noise is less and more grip at high speeds.Bridge stone is also good one before thre was no more option in tyres but today many have to select in the scale of Dry/wet/winter/noise- comfort / longevity all companys are providing this now adays
     
    vijays777, Jan 21, 2012
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  10. VahanPujari

    VahanPujari Staff Member Janitor

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    50% Clutch Refund under Goodwill warranty: As mentioned earlier, my Linea's clutch was replaced under warranty 6 months back as it became hard. The new clutch burnt in 1.5 to 2 months, don't know how. I replaced it and paid for it as TASC says it can't be covered under warranty. Few mails to Fiat and few follow ups later Fiat offered 50% of the cost as a goodwill gesture. It got processed and I got refund 2 days back.:)

    Coolant Top up: While I sent my driver to collect refund check, I asked TASC for Coolant top up as Coolant level was half an inch lower than the "min" mark. Since the engine was warm, TASC says it can not do the top up. So, I asked driver to purchase a ParaFlu coolant bottle for Rs. 275/-. Fortunately, Fortune allowed counter sales of ParaFlu with specific exception, I think. Because, sometime back Wasan did not allow it & topped up with its stock coolant from the barrel. Even Tata Repair shop at Worli did not allow counter sales of coolant neither top up.:eek: Thank you, Fortune. But I think counter sales of coolant bottle should be allowed.

    Tyre Change: Finally, got the tyre change done today. It's already late by 10-12K kms (should have done it at 45K kms but got delayed due to time constraints for last 6-7 months). Got it done a nearby tyre shop. Checked following tyres:

    Michelin Primacy LC
    Yokohama ES & AA series
    Bridgestone Potenza GIII

    The dealer inspite of being Bridgestone dealer, kept pushing Michelin saying Bridgestone is hard rubber and you'll feel it in Ride.

    But I had made up my mind on Bridgestone Potenza GIII on excellent reviews by FastLove & Grandeur & also reviews on the web. While I'm not looking at tyre life for beyond 2 years, I would have gone for Michelin but I'm a fast driver and do not slow down drastically on potholes & also travel to rural area in Gujarat sometimes where Michelin softer rubber carries a risk that I did not want to bear. Also, got excellent reviews for Potenza for fantastic grip in wet conditions / monsoons. So, deal done on Potenza.

    Price difference was not much - Got Potenza for Rs. 5,250/- after much negotiations (21K for 4 tyres). Michelin was Rs. 5650/- which I think could be Rs. 5500/- after negotiations.

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    VahanPujari, Jan 22, 2012
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