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Discussion in 'Fiat India News' started by amogh, Feb 5, 2015.

  1. prabhjot

    prabhjot Esperto

    delhi ncr
    And the Hyundai bigger diesel is (a) not a jot more 'refined' as everyone keeps saying than the mjd nor (b) free of the for-some-reason whined-about 'turbolag', nor (c) nearly with as much torque.

    NOT that it has sold that well compared to the petrol and the smaller diesel, at least as far as a gurgaon dealer told me (incidentally an immediate neighbour of Torque Fiat, which last has now, almost mercifully, been shut-down, with Gurgaon service handled by the quite-good Faridabad dealer DRS' Gurgaon FASS)

    Personally, i quite like the SCross: it is Maruti's only fully euro-spec in engineering model on offer in India. Therefore good-value for good-values, it could be said?

    Interestingly on the topic of the 1.6 mjd: Autocar claims that a cheaper version of the Jeep localized in India for 2017 c-suv will come with this engine (+ddct?) in 1.5 litre form. It could really then be priced ultra-compellingly, especially if paired to the ddct (the same powertrain combination now being used on the european SCross, the 500X and the Renegade+(later) the Tipo as well. An engine downsizing approach that works very well in engine-indifferent India, as Mercedes has been showing by using a smaller-output on their former M-class (gle) suv: the lower-price enabled is rather enabling for sales numbers. At least for diesels in the d-segment and above suv space.
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2016
  2. SOOZ_P

    SOOZ_P Regolare

    Grande Punto 1.3
    There will be change of plans to this as New Punto suspended globally. Sienna may be but chances are more for Tipo sisters which should replace Punto and Linea. Let's see if they add Urban Cross with led lights, DRLs, inbuild Navigation and much premium interiors/Exteriors, they might just catch the right rope to come UP. From festive season, products will be marketed under FCA rather than Fiat and addition of familiar name JEEP to the table, I certainly feel these numbers will be improved.

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  3. prabhjot

    prabhjot Esperto

    delhi ncr

    The 'new Punto' has been suspended ONLY for Europe. In any case, that was only a rumoured model launch, and most likely not ever going-to-be a Punto-replacement, but rather a premium-within-mass offering either in the 500 lineup (a 500 5-door) or a new Lancia 'Delta'/'Deltina. Marchionne ust stated that for europe the Punto-like model is the Tipo hatch, given its amazing price-value equation. Besides, the Punto is selling great in Italy, Spain, France and even Germany (simpler lower-power engine offerings, lowered price.)

    The 'new Punto' (x6h) and 'new Grand Sienna' (x6s) are very much on-track, but only for Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, the rest of Latin America, and possibly India.

    They will be very close related styling etc wise to the Tipo sedan+hatch, but will apparently be a bit smaller, and on a completely different platform+architecture (updated and lightened Palio: 326). The Tipo's is simply too expensive, being too advanced in rigidity and crash-safety (euro ncap 5 stars), used also on the 500X, renagde and JEEP c-suv for the usa and europe.

    For India they have the option of offering either the Brazilian-renewed-Palio-platform model(s) OR the susw euro-american one(s), since the Jeep c-suv will be made in india off the latter, after the new investments at ranjangaon are done by early-mid 2017. I feel they should go Tipo hatch-in-crossover-avatar + especially the 500X and/or 500L, all well-above 11-12 lakhs, for India, if at all, rather than pursue the 'new Punto' etc mass market path, as their plan originally stated. Why? because imo of the (potentially good) exportability to rhd markets from here. They could always re-enter the b2/c1/c2 markets at a (much) later date.
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  4. gpunto75

    gpunto75 Amatore

    Grande Punto 1.3
    Fiat sales for August 2016
    Punto + avventura : 501
    Abarth :17
    Linea: 133
    Total: 651
    Source : autopunditz

    This is an improvement over the previous month. A good ad campaign is now needed till the festive season lasts. Minor changes that have been made + relationship to the brand Jeep must be highlighted now. ( can we hope for Extended warranty? Just for building reassurance in the brand )
    Year old linea and Punto models still hold good in their respective segments. These are still rightly loaded in those places where they are meant to be.
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2016
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  5. prabhjot

    prabhjot Esperto

    delhi ncr
    17 very automotively and financially wise true-'enthusiasts'/automotive-vfm-aficionados, then, in August for the Abarths!

    Since they have to stretch these very models, in variations and improv-isations through to 2018, one hopes the ddct+t-jet is also around-the-corner, maybe next year, if not already at Diwali with the Urban Cross t-jet ('powered by Abarth'.)
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  6. acechip

    acechip Superiore

    If only the Abarth were priced around 10-10.5 lakhs!! Wouldnt mind getting one just for the sheer pleasure of driving. Without additional airbags or ESP, 12 lakhs looks a bit unreasonable. The Figo diesel Titanium+ is 8.6 lakhs and offers 6 airbags and a scorching performance, second only to Abarth.
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  7. Krunal Bhatt

    Krunal Bhatt Amatore

    Punto Evo 1.3
    Last Month it was 560, now 651. Thats huge improvement.
    Looking at historic data of FIAT sales; I found that till Sep-Oct 2014, FIAT was constantly selling more than 1000 units. But would like to know what went wrong after that.
    Shut down of Mumbai dealership OR something else?(Please don't say its because new look Punto which drove the customers away.)
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  8. bharath

    bharath Regolare

    Fresh Products from other competitors! Now in 2016, Fiat stable still has the same products :(..There will always be a spike in sales whenever a new product is introduced but thriving on it requires constant updates,offers,new products etc..
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  9. prabhjot

    prabhjot Esperto

    delhi ncr
    The Indian car market is in the grip of 'neophilia': some new models (usually from either MS or HY) are immediate superhits, while all others are forever-condemned if they are not immediate big-hits. All or nothing. 'Winner take all' kind of market behaviour.

    Of course, it does NOT follow that offering all-new models is a solution. A mere minor necessity for say FIAT (or VW or Skoda or Toyota or Tata), nowhere near sufficient, and therefore HUGELY risky and expensive. As Ford have just discovered with the Figo+Aspire, as Tata is currently (burning untold crores in the forlorn effort to make any money years from now on all their new models and new dealers/ads, etc), and as Nissan-Renault have shown in India for years....launch a 6-10 'new' models one after the other, year after year, for one and a half to succeed (Duster+Kwid), and accumulate epic financial losses in the process.

    @Krunal Bhatt
  10. rusticnomad

    rusticnomad Amatore

    Linea T-Jet
    Looks like DRL's won't make it to urban cross?


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