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Fiat India - Future Plans

Discussion in 'Fiat India News' started by Ravi, Dec 6, 2012.

  1. prabhjot

    prabhjot Esperto

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    The Grand Cherokee will sell well! It is a Jeep, and just consider the way it looks relative to the almost effete-in-comparison German luxury SUV-s. It is even better equipped. Yes they'll have to price it a few lakhs lower than the equivalent M-Class. Which is why the plan, apparently, is to CKD-assemble it in Ranjangaon.

    The 500L and 500L Living (7-seaters) are great cars in their own right, offering the USP of space and airiness that is unmatched for cars of these dimensions. Their seating systems are hyper flexible too. And they are much bigger cars than we imagine: bigger than a Duster, for eg, i believe. Stylish and Italian-stylised too!

    The point is that if they're committing to one of these platform-sharing cars (the Jeep C-Suv to go up against the Fortuner) as they apparently are, can they not also then commit to 1 or 3 (500L, 500X, Renegade, 500L Living) of its siblings?

    Probably Not! Because they cannot possibly meet costing/pricing targets for India, given the guaranteed to be low volumes from india alone.

    And so: either they have to export from India, and meet economies of localized production scale that way (as with the planned Jeep c-suv) OR they have to switch platforms back to old palio/current Indian Linea-Punto one, with other cost cutting too. These cars, remember, sell at or above the Skoda yeti in Europe, remember, and we know how much that brilliant car costs in India (19 to 23 lakhs!)

    I doubt there's an export case (for the next 2-3 years at least) out of India for the 500L or 500X or even the Renegade, and so....:confused::(

    Also, the mjd2 would be impossible given fuel quality issues, @asimpleson , since it relies on high-bar high frequency fuel injection, perhaps?

    So it's back to t-jet + Abarth + ddct? +amt? + touchscreen for the next couple of years, with perhaps a re-facelift of the Linea?

    The 5-year plan's b-suv (off the current but lightened Palio platform) promised for India in 2016 and spoken of to Autocar a few months ago has not been shown in Brazil where it is being developed, and is not mentioned in the recent concise update of that plan presented to investors. Maybe it WILL be a version of the 500L 5-seater?

    BUT yeah: may it please very kindly be the 500X !?!:D
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  2. sandipan_r15

    sandipan_r15 Superiore

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  3. asimpleson

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    Is there a report to that effect, that MJD2 cannot operate with current fuel quality. :confused: Because Bharat Sarkar is committed to Fuel quality needs. Apparently we are better than some nations still; atleast on paper. The comparison was between Korea, China, Japan, Euro and their respective norms for specific fuel refinement. There is an extensive report online.

    Further unless next Bharat Stage is pushed till it hurts the companies but not the market, Fiat might consider continuing the cost cutting and keeping the MJD2 in wraps.

    AMT is not garnering too much favour, or maybe it will be pushed by manufacturers as a cheap cost effective (kaam chalau) automatic for city based cars. AMT looks meek and bleak when you compare it with DDCT. Cannot imagine a diesel esp. with AMT. The transmission losses at minimum with DDCT with many distinct advantages and a real torque capable design and built. It definitely will come at slight premium and maybe if they can match prices of this one with Nissan's Xtronic.
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  4. acechip

    acechip Superiore

    NCR based manufacturer- has to be MSIL. Honda would be the least interested in studying Fiat products.

    But regarding the 500L- I am a bit perturbed by the fact that it scored quite poorly in the front small overlap test.
    See thread below.


    http://www.teamfiat.com/threads/iih...-results-for-this-forum.13813/#post-841930767
  5. sandipan_r15

    sandipan_r15 Superiore

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  6. prabhjot

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    Don't see how they can even begin to price this brilliant, unique, original small-suv, car competitively: the Panda (with or without 4x4) is equal or way more expensive in the UK, for eg, than an equivalent Punto Evo, apparently.

    Unless they're thinking of India as an export base for Panda-s back to Europe, at least to the UK and Ireland, or to other right hand drive markets like say Singapore or Japan? Since they've apparently said they'll be converting the excellent and high-end factory where it is currently built, quite expensively, in Italy (Pomigliano d'Arco?) for manufacture of premium and luxury cars for global markets i.e Alfa Romeo etc. ?
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  7. SOOZ_P

    SOOZ_P Regolare

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    8th March something happening as per fiat india fb account. uploadfromtaptalk1425758079160.jpg
    Is it Abarth 500 launch ??
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  8. prabhjot

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    Thanks @SOOZ_P

    Strange epigram for an Abarth launch ad: since Abarth-s are at best highly 'femme fatale', rather than cutely, curvaceously seductive!

    I dearly wish, as in 'dream', that FCA India has/will have:p decided to ckd-with-local-engine-and-gearbox/transmission the 500 (range) itself, and not just the Abarth! It's a low cost/low-risk way to really give some, few, Fiat-brand skeptics/cynics/indifferents a compelling reason that they can 'get' to rush and go buy a Fiat! Price it anywhere below 10 or even 12 lakhs....?! Not going to happen, but, as usual....it should, no?! :cool::p
    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 8, 2015, Original Post Date: Mar 8, 2015 ---
    @SOOZ_P

    :p.....International Women's Day: March 8.

    Fiat India accumulating 'likes' on facebook like few others, but no-likes, no-thankyous in the real marketplace!!:p
  9. acechip

    acechip Superiore

    I found this advt an odd way to celebrate womanhood. Why not build on the "silent" strength and resilience of Fiat's build quality and reliability ?
  10. dadasaheb

    dadasaheb Regolare

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    it seems 5 X 5 offer announced officially on India web site

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