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Discussion in 'Punto 1.3 MJD' started by amit, May 23, 2010.

  1. VahanPujari

    VahanPujari Staff Member Janitor

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    There are small metal clips in the horn pad underneathe steering pad. In my Linea, right side clip was broken and right side horn pad stopped working. Keep it the way it is till the horn is working!!

    ---------- Post added at 03:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:40 PM ----------

    Yeah. But question is why should be so many frequent niggles?
     
  2. amit

    amit Superiore

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    As of now the left side horn pad is not working and I can use the horn only if I press the right side.

    The metal clip breaking is another needless issue according to me. Those who know me and ride along in my car acknowledge that I am among the few people in India who use the horn very sparingly yet the clips break? Considering the driving system in India shouldn't Fiat have upgraded the horn to last longer? I remember talking to someone from GM before the Cruze was launched and he said in Europe & US the Cruze's horn is designed to last 5000 cycles / presses while in India it should last 5,00,000 cycles. The topic came about when he started telling me the small areas where Indian cars design is different from the same model sold abroad & how these small changes result in delay in launching these cars here sometimes.

     
  3. Sat-Chit-ananda

    Sat-Chit-ananda Esperto

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    Sir it happens in all the cars,not only in FIAT.

    I had to pay about 2500 to get it resolved as wire strip in my old Wagon R had given up.
    To identify the issue Harsh had to dismantle airbag assembly(mine was with air bags+ ABS) some sensors and finally nailed it.
     
  4. amit

    amit Superiore

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    No it doesn't BUT the horn of my Palio S10 also conked off around the 50K mark. My Punto has done about 51,400 kms at the moment. In comparision, my SX4's horn lasted till it was disposed off and I will surely update on when the horn in my Honda City conks off. At the moment the City is a little over 32,000 kms.

    A worrying trend that I have observed lately on this forum is that many of us are trying to justify the niggles saying 'it happens in other car's as well' and we go hammer & tongs when the service advisor gives us this response when we go for a solution to some problem. This is a very dangerous trend. The forum was not formed to accept or justify niggles, even minor ones.
     
  5. Sat-Chit-ananda

    Sat-Chit-ananda Esperto

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    Sir,I am not justifying just sharing the fact
    I have seen this happening in brand new i20,a 10 K Kms run Jazz, my old maruti 800,Wagon R and Zen (even now i have to press on left side of the horn pad to honk:-( ),with no relation to the number of kms it ran.
    I visit my friends multi brand server & repair shop,trust me it happens in all/most of the cars one or the other time, you just got lucky with SX-4.
    If you want you can call my friend Harish of pride cars on his cell 9945112233 to confirm.
    -Sat
     
  6. VahanPujari

    VahanPujari Staff Member Janitor

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    I had never an issue with Horn Pad or any other major or minor part (except fuel pump) in my Ford Ikon in 5.5 years 90,000 kms. In 68,000 kms in my Linea I've lost count of how many parts are changed (within warranty as well as outside warranty). And I still believe that my Linea is one of the most stable pieces amongst other batches of Linea's.
     
  7. amit

    amit Superiore

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    Off topic: Check out the mileage from my Honda City A/T from Chakan to Kharghar. Drive was last wednesday & yes the A/C was off from Lonavala to almost panvel but the mileage is still impressive.

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  8. amit

    amit Superiore

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    I was driving along the Pune-Mumbai expressway at 5.30pm on a cloudy, dreary evening and just after crossing the Talegaon / Chakan toll plaza I was stopped by cops. Reason? I had my headlights on and as per them it is illegal to have the headlights on in the day unless it's raining heavily. The conversation then went like this between me & an officer sitting in a Bolero (BO = Bolero officer)

    Me: It's dull, dreary and dark with little drizzle hence I have my headlights on.
    BO: It's not so dark that you cannot see. I have specs and I can still see the road ahead
    Me: Headlights are not just so the driver can see the road, it's also because other driver's and road user's can spot you.
    BO: See so many car's are going and no body has their headlights on. Why only you?
    Me: Just because they don't have common sense and are doing wrong doesn't mean I will follow them!
    BO: Ya only you are right everyone else is wrong.

    I realised there was no point in arguing so ultimately I was fined Rs.200. Weirdly, they charged me Rs.100 for having tinted films which should have been Rs.500 with a threat to get them removed as per SC order. I guess these guys didn't know about the order!

    Driving back I was thinking if there was a concept of global transfer's of cops and if these morons had been posted in an European or North American country they would have stopped the entire traffic for having their headlights on in the day!

    The point is: Is it really ILLEGAL to have your headlights on during day / evening time unless it's raining heavily? Also, how are you going to define heavy rains? First this country makes subjective laws and then harasses law abiding citizens like us!

    Secondly, if it actually is illegal to have lights on in the day then how come we have car's with DRL's / LED DRL's running around in this country? Or is it because only the Merc's , BMW's and Audi's have this feature they are not stopped since it's assumed the owner is a big shot? And what about car's with automatic headlights? Imagine trying to explain to the cops that the car automatically switches on it's headlights depending on the light outside! Even measly Linea's and XUV's have these features now.

    Yesterday, a cop in Kashmir was thrashed with AK-47's because he tried to stop a minister's motorcade from jumping a red light. Unlike our news channels, I have no sympathy for him. The more powerful you are here the more you go around bull-dozing and harassing other's not so powerful.
     
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  9. Ravi

    Ravi Staff Member Janitor

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    I don't think its illegal, but we all know arguing with them is just useless.
     
  10. kirenh

    kirenh Regolare

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    It all depends on your cars registration no.

    I have an habit of keeping either the fog lights or the head lamps on while driving on the express way, But have never been stopped by the Talegaon police because my car is MH14 registered. Similarly, at Vashi octroi naka signal where no one stops, I have been stopped couple of times. When aksed why I was stopped whereas all the other cars were allowed to go though jumping signal, they indirectly confirm its due to the registration no. But luckily for me my licence is MH02 RTO, hence for them I am an local guy. :)
     
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