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Discussion in 'Punto 1.3 MJD' started by amit, May 23, 2010.

  1. amit

    amit Superiore

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    767
    Navi Mumbai
    Both front elastic pads were changed and the car is back today. The noise while turning the steering is gone BUT I feel there is a increase in noise level when the car is on the move. There is a constant loud humming sound when driving. I revved the engine upto 2000 rpm while stationary and it was smooth so it's definitely something else. What can it be? :A
  2. amit

    amit Superiore

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    767
    Navi Mumbai
    The humming sound has now changed to a howling sound & is diagnosed to the left back tyre which has 'lost it's shape due to depression & ballooning'. These are the words of Fortune Fiat.

    I am checking out quotes of Apollo Tyres, car should be up & running by today evening. Of course, the car will be test driven with the stepney first and if the sound disappears then the new 4 tyres will be mounted.
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2011
  3. Italia-Linea

    Italia-Linea Staff Member Janitor

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    2,123
    Pune
    ^^ amit do check the wheel bearings too before jumping up to change tyres. for test ask them to put some good tyres at rear/ your spare tyre and see whether the sound persists.
  4. amit

    amit Superiore

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    767
    Navi Mumbai
    The car was sent to Fortune yesterday and considering how pathetic they are, I specifically asked them to check the bearings. They clarified that the rear does not have bearings :confusedand that it's the tyre that's gone and needs to be replaced. As I already said, I will mount the spare tyre and test drive the car before changing all 4 tyres.
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2011
  5. ranconteur

    ranconteur Amatore

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    124
    Delhi
    rear does not have bearings..:shocked
    recently i changed my rear right abs bearing of punto under warranty and yes the most probable reason for humming sound is bearings...do check with another TASS....its a matter of 5 mins to check the bearings...!!
  6. Tony

    Tony Esperto

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    2,049
    Kalamboli, Navi Mumbai
    Kuwait
    Grande Punto 1.2
    hahahahahahahahhaha, hw could we digest when they say that the Rear dont have bearings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Are they repairing cycles, even the cycle have bearings////...disgustinging answer to hear from them.
  7. amit

    amit Superiore

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    767
    Navi Mumbai
    The car was sent back to Fortune and this time they said the rear bearings are okay! Seems like different technicians have different knowledge about these cars.

    With the spare tyre mounted, the noise disappeared so it does seem like a tyre issue. The car is closing in on 40K kms so it seems like a tyre change is due.
  8. amit

    amit Superiore

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    767
    Navi Mumbai
    After 4 new Bridgestone tyres were put on the car, there is a noticeable pull to the left. The car was sent to a VERY reputed alignment shop and they said lower arms have gone and stabilizer bar needs to be checked. Back the car goes to Fortune, Nerul, They confirm that lower arms have worn out (why didn't they notice that when they changed the elastic pads?!!) but say there is no point in changing to new lower arm's as the car will still pull to the left! What sort of idiotic logic is this?!

    The entire ownership expereince is going down the drain with a troublesome car and stupid dealers! Fiat has almost lost a future customer.
  9. gurjinder

    gurjinder Staff Member Janitor

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    3,989
    Punjab
    Has there been a very noticeable degradation in ride quality?

    I may be wrong, but worn out control arms shouldn't lead to pulling issues. I reckon your Punto would've done around 50-60k km's? That isn't much mileage.

    Our Palio D is running around with totally shagged control arms, leading to a very poor ride quality but it still doesn't pull either way.

    Did the tire guy check the usual suspects? Swapping of tires , re-mounting etc etc.
  10. amit

    amit Superiore

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    767
    Navi Mumbai
    - No there isn't too much of a degradation in ride quality.

    - Car has done about 39,600 kms.

    - The VERY reputed alignment center said nothing they will do will get the alignment right until lower arms are changed and stablilizer bar is checked & replaced if required. Fiat ASC agreed that lower arms have worn out and also agreed that car is pulling to left due to worn out lower arms but replacing them wouldn't make any difference! All our cars go to this alignment center and I have no reason to doubt what they say.

    The point now is should I replace the lower arms and spend Rs.6K on them assuming that Fiat ASC are wrong in their logic? If new lower arms will not solve pulling issue then why did the car when it was brand new with brand new lower arms not pull to left or right?!

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