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FCA sales in the rest of the world, esp USA, Europe and Middle East, Brazil

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    https://globenewswire.com/news-rele...IAT-CHRYSLER-AUTOMOBILES-SALES-IN-EUROPE.html

    Fca is the clear #4 auto company by sales in Europe, ahead now of ford but behind vw group, PSA and Renault-Nissan-Dacia. It's one of the few that is hugely outperforming the European market overall BOTH at brand (fiat, Alfa, Lancia, Maserati, fiat professional plus jeep which is flat for now awaiting the new compass) level and at aggregate-of-several-brands level.

    And that without counting its large 13odd% and climbing market share in vans and uv-s under the fiat professional brand, let alone Iveco and CNH Industrial.

    Fca has recently overtaken Toyota in the usa+Canada markets and is the clear #3 there now, and is one of the few firms with steadily rising margins while most others are under profitability and severe margins pressure.

    Fca I.e,, fiat and jeep brands' sales combined remains the #1 by sales not to mention profitability in Brazil, #4 and growing in Argentina and growing sales and share in Mexico too. #1 or 2 in Turkey when fiat pv numbers are combined with the uv/vans numbers plus jeep plus Alfa.
     
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    https://seekingalpha.com/article/4058692-dangerous-risk-fiat

    Not a postive report.

    But on a lighter vein, FCA is not treating india like a step motherly treatment.

    "Fast forward to 2017, and FCA does not appear to be learning from its past mistakes"

    Even Guys in US feel the same heat.

    Also a solace suzuki is also close to fiat unlike india .
     
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    @Barani

    The guy's not clued in enough, and is making many dubious assumptions and attributions. To understand why, please go through my posts in this very thread. Cheers
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    FCA sales soaring and hugely outperforming the market average in italy, france, spain and germany too: March 2017. ALL brands, esp Fiat, Alfa and Maserati + Abarth, Jeep flattish as it awaits the new Compass and the refreshed 2018 Cherokee. Good showing in the UK too, a traditionally weak rhd FCA market: on the back of a big uptick in Alfa, Maserati and Abarth sales. FIAT ones are flat, Jeep down this month, but has been doing well, better than FIAT over the past few months since Brexit.

    FCA is the clear #4 in Europe, after vw group, psa-opel and renault-nissan-dacia, again.

    FCA still #1 in Canada, in march, new Compass coming on line will boost sales a lot.

    Back to #4 in the usa, but overall sales decline of 5%, in an overall now-heading-down market. FCA is reducing low margin fleet/rental car sales, decommissioning several low margin models, no longer offers the Dodge Dart or the Chrysler 200 sedan. So actually, FCA's doing great in a market where discounting is soaring and severe margin/profitability pressures are being felt, esp by Ford, GM, Toyota, Nissan, BMW...everyone. Machionne is hell bent on, instead, keeping and in fact improving margins in the usa as other firms' head south fast: by pursuing a 'white space' approach via Maserati, Alfa Romeo, new Compass built in low cost Mexico with low cost brazilian content, plus new high brand usp models like the upcoming all-new Jeep Wrangler.

    The Brazilian marketplace is improving after its long and sevre recession: with Jeep selling more than 7000 Compasses and Renegades in March, large sales on the Fiat Toro and Strada, while the old Fiat lineup is culled one by one and replaced with the new FireFly engined MOBI, UNO, and the upcomng 'new Punto/palio' (x6h) and the x6s 'new grand Sienna'. FCA has used the recession well: to heavily premiumize its product mix and price points via Jeep, improved dealerships, improved quality on the new Fiats (Toro, Mobi...) and of course the great new Firefly engine family.
     
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    The Tipo/Aegea are hits for FIAT's re-entry into the european c/d segments (hatch+SW+sedan), now sales of more than 9000 a month, and if Turkish sales are added (where the Aegea has taken over from the Linea as that country's #1 selling single nameplate): sales of well over 10000 a month, maybe upto 12/13000.

    The Tipo has outsold the Golf family of vehicles in Italy, just as the new Alfa Romeo Giulia has outsold in march the BMW 3 series, Merc c classe and the Audi A4.

    The Tipo has been showing steadily and almost continuously rising sales in europe over the past year: it surely has plenty more room to grow, esp since european economic rebound/mending seems to be strengthening. Predictably, it seems to've sold least well in the UK, rhd, for the obvious historical reason of the UK being, like all rhd markets, a very weak marketplace historically for FIAT barring the vans and the Fiat 500. Also the UK is heavily dominated by German firms and brands, including german-made Fords and Opel/Vauxhalls and Skoda-s.

    The TIPO/Aegea tofas jv plant in Bursa, Turkey's running full tilt 24x7, and is in fact seeing a sizeable capacity expansion to cope with demand, to which it is strongly rumoured is going to be added a cuv in the Tipo family of models (new Fiat Freemont?, a 5+2 seater?) meanwhile FCA has just launched an 's-design' black/bronze-trimmed-and-alloy-wheeled Tipo series with the 1.4 t-jet multiair+1.6mjd2+ddct etc at the Geneva autoshow.

    [Imo they ought to do a new FIAT Coupe version of the susw Tipo platform+architecture, priced much higher, or a premium-priced 124Spider-styled sporty-suspensioned and trimmed version of the Tipo hatch/sedan/cuv (just like our own 118ne was actually the 124 sedan version.) This last would seem a great way to also approach the rhd markets, like India, australia, japan and the uk: india-made of course alongside the Ranjangaon Jeep Compass, also a susw platform model]

    The new Alfa Giulia sold around 1800 cars in the EU in jan and feb. At this rate, just the Giulia will yield around 20-22k annual sales from the eu alone, which puts it at european #4 behind the german cars, and well ahead of the jaguar, lexus or infiniti. And the sedan market's actually small compared to the Stelvio's d-cuv one, so the Alfa re/new launch is going very well in europe. Alfa is launching in the usa currently where it'll take longer no doubt (the brand is not well known) and in China+Japan very shortly.

    It would seem that they will easily meet their Giulia sales target of 40k annually by 2018, and their Alfa sales target of 40000 for the eu (all-new rwd models) in 2018, in fact they could well exceed this last, something they may well need to do since Alfa's usa sales target of 40000 annually would seem a stretch, though the identical China one seems very do-able (the first 300 Alfa Giulia-s were sold in China on the internet WITHOUT any testdrives etc: in 10 seconds, apparently!)
     
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    FCA sales up a lot in Argentina, Mexico and Japan too: March 2017

    Albeit not as much as the marketplace as-a-whole in the first 2.

    In Japan: largely on the back of Jeep (great news for FCA India, which will be the rhd export hub for at least 2, if not 3+one ckd re-export one), Abarth (esp the made in Japan by mazda 124 Spider), Maserati and Ferrari, less so FIAT and Alfa. Alfa Romeo has a notable following there, and the Giulia let alone the Stelvio have not launched there yet, so there's more growth baked in, coming.

    In Argentina: the Brazilian FIATs and the Brazilian Jeeps are selling superbly in a now-rebounding Argentine economy, AND the real killer-aps as it were are perfectly timed as per the macro-economic/political-economy rhythm of both Brazil and Argentina: the 'new Punto/Palio' x6h and the Argentina-made 'new Grand Sienna' x6s.

    In Mexico: the peso has crashed since the Trump victory, ironically greatly enhancing the competitiveness of Mexican car and component exports to the usa, precisely the opposite to the protectionist aims/rhetoric of the Donald! So, exported to Mexico, usa- or canada-made models of fca have become hugely more expensive but yet growth has been good via the Fiat-badged or Dodge/ram badge-engineered brazilian FIAT exports (mobi, uno, strada, toro, Grand Sienna, also the European Tipo as Dodge Neon) and the Brazillian Jeep renegade, now joined by the Mexico-made Jeep compass.

    FCA, the only large non-luxury-import autofirm in all of Latin America to be profitable, nevermind the recessionary trends there over the past 2-4 years is going to be growing its marketshare AND profits in this region hugely as it rebounds, and as FCA has and will continue to premiumize its offerings via Jeep, via the all-new FIAT models, upgraded MOPAR-managed and branded dealers/service etc.

    Latam as a whole, esp Chile, Argentina and mexico add up to a tidy little market for FIAT europe models too, as also Alfa romeo as well as Maserati, alongside the expensive usa-made Jeeps and Ram pickups.

    It is everso helpful to and profitable-for FCA, especially fca since it has such an unusually large manufacturing local presence in LatAm including Argentina and Mexico, that these 3 ocuntries have a freetrade agreement, AND are also on the verge of signing a FTA with the European Union, while whether renogiated or not NAFTA still holds even now for exports to the usa+canada market for smaller, less expensive, lower margined models across brands.
     
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    FCA sales in China, March 2017

    A scorching month of sales for Jeep in China, in an overall market that has grown even further this month, after the dip in jan and feb (y-on-y.) 9000odd Jeep Cherokees, 4500 Renegades and.....7000odd new Compasses! The new Compass is, preditably, already a hit in china (fca used to sell plenty of old, imported Compasses previously, despite elevated pricing: the nameplate is a well known, familiar one in china.)

    FIAT is being wound down in china: the Viaggio and the Ottimo are no longer being manufactured.

    Remains to be seen if they implement their 2014 china plan of also localizing the 500X (the susw4x4 platform mate of the Renegade and Compass) there in 2018. If they do, that'll imo be a clue that they will eventually say in 2020 do the same here in india 9also for rhd exports.)

    FCA has to take a strategic call on the as-it-is very very tiny FIAT brand in Asia!

    China will soon also get this fabulous looking China-developed and China-special JEEP model, the Yuntu/Commander, essentially a restyled lwb, 7-seater Cherokee (cusw 4x4 platform):

    https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...n-seats-plug-in-hybrid-powertrain-116940.html

    This China engineered model will be a softroader, and will not be offered in the usa (brand inauthentic according to how Jeep is viewed in its home country) as a Jeep. Instead, it will be badged a Chrysler, a replacement for the retiring in 2018 Dodge Journey aka FIAT Freemont. Perhaps fca china will export the Jeep Commander k8 to Europe, though, and the rest of Asia, and/or as a FIAT Freemont replacement there??

    This model is important for having been developed, tested, validated, engineered etc almost entirely by Jeep China, and shows fca using the lower cost (if somewhat simpler) engineering/technical/manufacturing-centre prowess of the Chinese (as it does the Indian) engineering/skills base.
     
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    FCA Sales in Turkey: March 2017

    The overall market is down 13odd% again this month, which is no wonder since Turkey has had a severe currency depreciation episode with much more potential economic damage to come, for geopolitical and political (i.e., autocratic rightwing lurching of Erdogan) etc reasons.

    However, FIAT and FIAT lcv sales have soared by 9odd%, presumably because FIAT manufactures that many models in Turkey itself.

    Jeep and Alfa's small sales rate have both dipped a bit, though.

    Net-net FCA has come very close to Renault, the Turkish market #1: a clear #2 there, obviously gaining marketshare over many firms who have to import into Turkey more.
     
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    http://www.nasdaq.com/press-release...er-automobiles-sales-in-europe-20170419-00057

    FCA has again way outperformed the European market as a whole which grew at around 11% overall, with FCA growing as much as 18%, further gaining marketshare.

    All brands grew, but FIAT, Alfa Romeo (up 46%) and Maserati really soared. Jeep grew but as the new Compass is awaited its small y-on-y growth is based exclusively on the Renegade.
     
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    Maserati sold around 13000 exemplars in China alone (for a global 2016 total of around 42,000 high priced, high-margin cars) in 2016, reports Reid Bigland, its global brand head (and of Alfa Romeo) at the Shanghai Auto Show. He says they WILL hit 16-17000 sales (largely Levantes and Quattroportes) in China in 2017.

    Alfa Romeo has just been officially launched in China, to be sold and serviced either alongside Jeep or alongside Maserati, both networks expanding further in 2017 in China. The first 300 Giulia-s have been sold on the inetrnet there in a matter of 30 seconds, without any test drives, etc!

    The TIPO/Aegea is a super hit in Europe+Turkey: its sales have been rising continuously almost each and every month since launch, and have SURGED much further in March 2017, selling over 8000 exemplars in Italy alone. It is in sizeable demand in Spain, france and esp Germany too, esp as a rental and executive fleet car.

    FCA's european and chinese sales numbers are set for a surge: Alfa Stelvio+new Compass in Europe, new Compass further growth (doubling of march sales of 7000?), plus newly launched Alfa-s plus Maserati Levante plus the upcoming K8 china-special lwb Cherokee 7-seater Jeep.

    Same story in economically rebounding Brazil+Argentina+exports-to-mexico-etc: the new Punto x6h launches in May, and the 'new grand Sienna' (x6s) in end 2017.
     
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    FCA sales in France for April 2017

    FCA (Fiat a bit and Alfa Romeo up a lot, Jeep down 9%) is one fo the few autofirms to have grown overall sales in France this April, since the overall market is down a fair bit (6odd%) overall. Probably, French presidential election-related consumer nervousness.
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    FCA sales in the USA, April 2017

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fca-us-reports-april-2017-134500425.html

    FCA is, all-brands, yet again the #1 suv-selling firm in the usa.
    FCA is well ahead of all others in dealing with the accelerating slowdown in usa sales, overcapacity in compact and midsize fwd sedans, mounting inventories and heavy-discounting.

    Since: the dip y-on-y in FCA numbers is entirely due to old, low cost, entry-level and disocunt+low-margin rental-fleet-sales-heavy models (Dodge caravan, old Jeep Patriot and old Compass...), resulting in higher transaction prices overall for fca (better richer model mix), and a higher share of private, retail sales.

    Plus the built-in high-margin growth starting for FCA in 'white space' segments like Chrysler pacifica hybrd, Maserati levante and AlfaRomeo giulia and soon Stelvio (against the German firms plus jlr, volvo, cadillac and lexus) as well as the new Jeep Compass (built at high margins outside the usa, in mexico with a lot of content made-in-brazil, benefitting from a strong us$)

    Sales of the higher-margins USA-brands models (Jeep Grand Cherokee, Dodge Challenger, RAM pickups, Jeep Wrangler, Chrysler Pacifica minivan, Jeep Renegade....) remain robust, and those models have a larger share of the overall pie, given that FCA has culled the Dodge dart, the C 200, the old Jeep Patriot and old compass etc.
     

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