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engine and gear problem

Discussion in 'Technical' started by abhay, Sep 1, 2015.

  1. abhay

    abhay Timido

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    dehradun
    Grande Punto 1.3
    Hello members,
    Got punto emotion 1.3 mjd.have a bit problem today while driving .
    Today when i cross the speed limit beyond100kmph a unsual sound came like kar kar.i stopped the car and inspect but all thing wer ok no warning light on console.again i cross the limit same sound came. Then i drove below 100.
    And second thing is , is it usual when u accelarate your car from gear 2nd to 3rd engine rev up high and then you come again to 4th stil engine rev.in diesel .is it common ??
    And lastly i got jerks when i change gears even though i press the clutch full and leave it slowly then also it gives jerk and hicccups.
    Any advice will be appriciated
    Thanks in advance
  2. Deepak

    Deepak Regolare

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    KA-30
    Bengaluru
    Punto Evo 1.3 90 HP
    @abhay: how old is your car? How many miles? If your car is old , has the clutch plate replaced anytime?
  3. jumu

    jumu Superiore

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    Chennai
    Have the clutch sensor checked and replace if necessary.

    Abdul
  4. arzala

    arzala Timido

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    Vadodara
    Grande Punto 1.3
    I have similar sound coming from Engine bay, but only when car is IDLE and you open bonnet to hear carefully. Weird thing is; in the morning when engine is just started it gives hiss hiss hiss sound continuously, while after driving 2/3 kms, it starts giving tak tak tak sound as if like some chain is knocking somewhere. Upon acceleration (while car is still idle) sound goes away. I put my car on service center Bhaskara fiat at Vadodara for 3 weeks and they opened almost everything in engine bay (except engine itself and motor starter), but could not rectify sound. Now they asked me to drop car again for further check beyond engine bay. I wonder why could not they fix it even after 3 weeks and opening almost everything (including timer chain, HLA valve box, belts etc.)

    Car is oct-2012 manufactured, purchased in june 2013 and odo is 22000 now. I have regular service record and careful driving habit from office-home and vice versa.
  5. varin11

    varin11 Superiore

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    Mumbai
    Bombay
    Linea 1.3
    ....get the clutch bearing checked.The sound of bad clutch bearing is low and inaudible when engine noise is mildly high also.
  6. arzala

    arzala Timido

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    Vadodara
    Grande Punto 1.3
    @varin as I said, they tried every moving part except engine itself. Even their engineers at Fiat are baffled. I have recorded sound and wanted to attache here, but I receive filezie limit. So I can send via email if anyone is interested.

    Any possible help from anyone would be appreciated.
  7. varin11

    varin11 Superiore

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    821
    Mumbai
    Bombay
    Linea 1.3
    My linea alao had tak tak noise heard at low speed started at 76000 kms..... although my clutch was k but hard. The noise was heard at in first gear.Once the clutch was changed the noise disppeared.Since u have done 22k...I doubt it clutch. Have u checked for any body noise.
  8. arzala

    arzala Timido

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    Vadodara
    Grande Punto 1.3
    @varin1 thanks for suggestion. However I wonder how can voice come when car is Idle i.e not moving at-all and neither gear is engaged nor clutch is pressed?

    But yes, it hears at low-speed only, as soon as I press accelerator pedal (without pressing anything else) sound goes away. Then another question is if clutch is at fault then why doesn't sound appear instantly? Instead it starts appearing only after running some kilometers.

    My contact number is 9898264911. Would be good to discuss further when you are free.

    Btw car is still at dealer Bhaskara fiat since 10 days and they asked for help from Plant itself :) as their local/group mechanics are not able to sort it out. I also raised my concern to Fiat's regional sales/customer car Mr Satish Kadiya and Customer service head Mr. Mangesh.
  9. varin11

    varin11 Superiore

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    Mumbai
    Bombay
    Linea 1.3
  10. arzala

    arzala Timido

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    Vadodara
    Grande Punto 1.3
    I sent you email, please check. If you hear carefully, in between regular diesel engine sound you can clearly separate out "tak tak tak" noise.

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