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Comparo: 2013 Fiat Punto 90 HP vs Tata Vista D90 in India

Discussion in 'Hangout' started by Nadeem Ahmed VR 46, May 29, 2013.

  1. Nadeem Ahmed VR 46

    Nadeem Ahmed VR 46 Esperto

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    Source:http://overdrive.in/
    They say it is lonely at the top. Evidently that’s been true for the Punto 90. Well up until now at least. The car has been sitting on the throne of the most powerful diesel hatchback for a while now. So far, nobody has been able to challenge that. Last month though things changed. A new challenger appeared. One with a heart that has the same makings as the Punto. This is Tata’s offering for the budget dieselhead, and they call it the Vista D90.Let’s dive straight to the engines then, both cars feature the same Fiat Multijet engine fitted with a variable geometry turbocharger (VGT). The Punto however produces slightly more power, 93PS and 209Nm of torque compared to the Vista’s 90PS and 200Nm. The difference is that the Vista produces max torque from a lower 1750rpm all the way to 3000rpm, while the Punto produces the same at 2000rpm.How does this affect the drive? Well, the Vista is torquey, but even with the a VGT, there is quite a bit of turbo lag. Especially when driving in uphill sections. One needs to shift down gears quite often to get the car going. Once in its powerband the car effortlessly cruises and pulls well even during highway overtakes, making it a good highway cruiser. The Punto on the other hand displays even more turbo lag and makes the Vista feel more driveable. On the highway, the Punto is as good a cruiser too. Put both cars against each other in a drag and it’s the Punto… that finishes second. This despite the car being more powerful and lighter. The Vista hits the ton in 15.48s and crosses the 400m marker in 19.87s. The Punto however loses by only a whisker. The car takes 15.61s to hit 100kmph and does a 19.9s quarter mile time. Both cars max out at a little over 160kmph. In terms of fuel efficiency, the Punto scores over the Vista returning 15.5kmpl in town and 19.18kmpl on the highway translating to a 16.41kmpl overall figure. (1.4kmpl, 0.78kmpl and 1.24kmpl respectively more than the Vista to be exact).A performance diesel hatchback is expected to display good dynamics and it’s the Punto that wins hands down in this department. The car holds its line well around corners and is very composed. The steering is more direct and has much more feedback than the Vista’s lifeless and light steering, at high speed one needs to hold the Vista’s wheel quite firmly. The Punto chassis has the potential to handle more power if needed while the Vista starts to get hairy at high speeds. Tata engineers have worked hard to improve the Vista’s ride quality but it’s still not at par with the Fiat. The Punto glides over potholes and rough sections making the Fiat the obvious choice.The Vista may be smart and clean to look at in standard form but the Punto is more attractive. Though the car has been around for quite some time now, it is still one of the most attractive hatchbacks one can buy in the country today. The Vista D90 gets the Manza’s updated face, chrome detailing and add on optional accessories like a front lip, side skirts and rear spoiler but this makes it look like a girl with heavy makeup. Tata designers have tried to give the car a sporty look but we believe the standard Vista is more pleasing to the eye. The Punto is an Italian beauty queen, the smooth flowing bodyline with subtle sporty detailing makes it the better looker. Inside, both cars display similar quality levels. Tata has improved the overall fit and finish while the Punto’s quality has gone down from when it was first launched. The Vista D90 gets the same dash from the Manza which means the speedometer console has moved from centre to the right side of the dash. However in terms of interior design, it’s the Punto that comes on top again.So who wins? The Vista may be slightly quicker than the Punto and feature some extra comfort features like a touch screen stereo with navigation but that’s about it .The Fiat scores over the Tata in every other area. In terms of pricing, the Vista is priced at Rs 6.94lakh while the Punto can be yours for Rs 7.60 lakh (all prices ex-Mumbai) and if you’re lucky your local dealer may even offer you a cash discount. But for Rs 66,000 more the Punto is a more grown up and mature package and is the choice of these two for the budget diesel head.Looks like Autosites like Overdrive are also promoting Fiat cars now unlike in past when they used to discard these cars..

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  2. SHASHANKREDDY

    SHASHANKREDDY Superiore

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    It was decent comparision. IMO should never compare PUNTO VS VISTA though it share same engine...its like comparing RENAULT SCALA VS RENAULT FLUENCE .
    We can compare PUNTO with FABIA,POLO,I20 and Figo but not Swift & Vista:evilsmile
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  3. PatchyBoy

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    Nadeem Ahmed VR 46 - Please give credit to source. Also please take the time to make paragraphs. Makes for easy reading.

    Rajan
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  4. PuntoMJD

    PuntoMJD Amatore

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    Good Comparison.
    It could have been better if you split in different aspects like Exterior, Interior, Handling etc.
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  5. ENKI

    ENKI Esperto

    Overdrive.in max. out at 160 km/hr for 90HP. They haven't tested a tobu-cycle forget 90HP or D90... end of the story.

    This is far lesser than the max. speed advertised by FIAT which is around 172 km/hr for 2011 models, not sure after that but it can't be 160 km/hr. These testers are chosen due to some internal reference, a business professional with MBA degree who can just drive & do it for employment. They are as scared as a wet cat when on wheel. Indian automotive journalism can never improve until unless there are individuals behind the wheel who drives for passion with fearlessness & can test the car's limitation. Sorry, that is the very first criterion for being anywhere close to good rated automotive journalism.

    By the above review, seems like D90 Vista is worth a Punto.
    Ok Overdrive, try selling me a brand new D90-Vista with 50% flat off on it's on-road price:-D.
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  6. imranshks

    imranshks Superiore

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    I drove Vista D90 last weekend. It isn't really a bad car to drive in city. But after having driven Punto for over 3 months and 6500 kms, I can confidently say that its no match to Vista D90.

    I could just test it upto 120 kmph speed and I must say "with little or no confidence".

    It's spacious, its got good ride quality, maybe good FE too, its priced lesser than a Punto 90HP but "It's not a Driver's car" !!!

    Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk 2
  7. Rituraj

    Rituraj Regolare

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    I love the D90 - the one made by Nikon not Tata :-D. Jokes apart, the Vista was never a dynamically accomplished car and adding the 90hp engine along with the Manza dash doesn't make it a sporty hatch. Going forward, it's good that both these cars will not share the same showroom floor.
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  8. theblack

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    I've heard that the D90 is a direct lift from Fiat meaning both the engine and gearbox has been replaces as is. Is it true?
    If that be the case and people still say D90 is better to drive (not comparing handling only the drive ) then i would like to sit up and take notice about other things that have gone into making this a "Better drive"

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