Discussion in 'Engine Compartment' started by ProBiker, Feb 23, 2011.
You can do that with the stock settings aswell.
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Yes ofcourse the Punto can... I am talking bout the Punto MJD 75PS, here the i20 crdi feels a bit quicker in a straight line. But then a Punto at 160km/hr and a i20 at 160km/hr are two completely different stories, the i20 feels like you need a :helmet .
I got your point, you want it to be more peppy in city, wants your car shoot off from the line, nothing wrong with that. I can also see that it is going to be a huge psychological boost for you, go for it. A psychological boost may cost all the world will still be a bargain. I also agree that "though remapping is comparatively better option, it's no option until there is one expert to remap it:evilsmile". You have got all reasons to go for a tuning box. Pls proceed, you sound logical here.
But pls take care of a thing or two. Before paying for a TB, try to do as many as you can of 0-100, 0-120 or even 0-140 with stock setting (on a lonely stretch with responsibility). A co-driver along with a stop watch is more like it. Note down your best timings so that it's default performance must be embedded in your subconscious and you don't need a stopwatch anymore. Then you can go for a TB. After installing the chip, do the test runs again and feel if it really makes difference worth the money. Honestly, I am not sure about how they perform with BH4 engines (until it is a latest/revised map for BH4s). I also doubt whether all TBs are indeed performing or just an illusion that one wants to believe in. No harsh feelings or taunts, but many could very well be praising their stock performance only:-D.
On a side note, with stock settings too, Punto may not demolish it's contenders on paper but in real world and in India, very less drivers would dare continue to tail a "really fast Punto". I have seen Camry going 500 feet inside the field which was trying to tail a 90HP before it's driver realized that he has just been escorted to a big loopy turn. Thanks god, there were no concrete barriers on this road then (Now it has!!). It would have put many people lives in danger. When referring stats on paper, you may develop a view that "Punto is underpowered for it's dynamics" or let's do it other way round, "Many cars are dangerously overpowered". You will always maintain more avg. speed than many paper horses even when you drive your Punto sedate as compared to spirited drivers in many other cars (if not all the cars because there are couple of good cars apart from Punto!).
I would like to see someone post a picture of the MID showing TripB distance 100+ kms and TripB average speed 80+, before I am convinced that these cars actually need aftermarket tuning improvements. We neither have the roads nor the b***s to achieve that. Period.
A lot of TFIans do that in their normal routine. Come-on, it can't be that bad. We have good enough highways to maintain an avg speed more than 80 km/hr. I wonder if anyone has put such a pic already or one should do it. At least not when you are trying to prove it to someone.
There are many genuises and FIAT lovers on TFI who have managed mind boggling avg. speed but they do it for passion and enjoys their FIAT rather than any other purpose. You may believe it if you are willing to do so.
ENKI - I believe it, though I haven't seen pictorial proof. Hence the post. When you already have a car that can do more than what the road can reasonably allow and the law permits- bone stock, pray do tell me, where is the need to improve on it?
Exactly like i said about the i20 crdi, good engine but not a chassis to match. Why i bought a Punto?? Everyone who drives one knows the answer. With all due respect i am just an enthusiast with not much knowledge so i am looking up to you guys to help me out with my predicament and not taking sides in the this debate of which is better.
There I already one record documented and published where a guy has done some 1400 kms at an avg. Speed of 105 km/hr in Punto sports. Same is registered in Limca book of records. Many TFI members have covered 800 km in 7hrs. I won't name that, you have find his ownership thread.
Again, I know indian roads are bad but do you sincerely believe that we don,t have a 100 kms stretch with an avg. Speed of 80km/hr (by your avatar in a Fiat Linea tjet?
You are missing the point completely. Let me repeat myself again
When you already have a car that can do more than what the road can reasonably allow and the law permits- bone stock, pray do tell me, where is the need to improve on it?
Also, are the rest of the components in the car suitable for the extra power / torque? We have to remember that just the engine block does not make a car. All other components from Tyres to Air Filters to Nuts&Bolts are designed and chosen to work together. Considering that our cars have many locally sourced components, that maybe rated for bone stock output, how well would these components cope with the additional stress?
You will learn soon Rajan, soon. May the Force be with you.
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