Got the information from FPT Torino. BTW, I am not intending to pee on Probiker's parade. I appreciate all his efforts and am well aware what sort of headache comparison tests are having done enough of them in my career. However, I am a professional giving here advice based on my experience. The companies on the net often use the vulnerability of the unsuspecting public to make out that they have technology on the cheap that isn't. Probiker has has done a comparison test on what is available and made it as extensive as possible. The problem with tuning boxes is that they are coming with set menus not fully adjustable withouit the help of a chassis dyno if at all. That the claimed power can be achieved with some of them has been proven by Probiker and he has given an independent break down on the performance aspects. Unfortunately he can not run all of the test settings for six months or so at the same time on a number of vehicles to see what the long term impact is unless his surname is Rockefeller or he is a son of the Sheikh of Brunei.