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Discussion in 'Fiat Global News' started by prabhjot, May 10, 2016.

  1. prabhjot

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    The government of India, IF it can get its chaotic misfiring cylinders in-line or at least in a V ;-) needs to sign the fta with the EU asap. The EU's offer is a good one, including especially on the 'movement of Indian professionals'.

    It makes far too much sense, overall, esp given the other geo-economic-and-political shifty-ness currently (China, Japan, ASEAN, USA, EU, Russia, MiddleEast.....).

    It is time for the GoI to be thinking in terms of India as a higher-value-added manufacturing exporter, esp of high value-added autocomponents AND better cars/suv-s (i.e., not merely say Suzuki Baleno-s or Hyundai Creta-s or Ford Figo-s.)

    FCA is really showing the way by exporting such a higher-value-added, global-quality-spec model from India, namely the 2017 Jeep new Compass. Including localization the the very advanced 9-speed automatic transmission and the 2litre mjd2.

    That way: the indian auto components industry and exports will benefit. The Indian-market oligopolists (i.e., MS, HY and Mahindra) will be un-enabled from appropriating such-huge undeserved 'rents'/gratuitous-profits AND the entire automotive supply chain can upgrade hugely. BUT: for that imports-from-the-EU of say Mercs or say Alfa Romeo-s or say VWs or Fords have, as a quid pro quo, to be allowed-in on non-forbidding terms.

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    @Prabjhot,

    So you think the Alfa Giulia Ti, QV and other models will sell like hot cakes in the US/Canada regions ? Though every time Reid Bigland promises big hopes on the two upcoming models Guilia and Stelvio which by his very own words sounds like he is banking very much on those two for the Marque's last try with the big leagues. At the very end he also hopes customer's interests will be very much in favor of the two products of the giorgio platform he still throws a word of caution that he is not expecting or anticipating the Giulia should be setting the sales charts on Fire.

    Only time will tell. your thoughts ?
     
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    The Alfa Romeo re-launch (with all-new bleeding edge platform and engines) with a budget of 5 billion$ or so overall through 2020 is predicated as much on (a) global volumes, ALL exported from Italy, esp USA, China, Japan, Australia and Dubai/etc (b) heavy sharing of both the platform and the engines across all the Alfa models of different segments, also sharing with future Maserati-s, Dodges and even at least one Jeep model (c) the wider albeit still compact dealer network, ALL of which will be shared with either Maserati, and/or Jeep and/or Fiat.

    i.e., they're is great shape in terms of all 3 criteria, esp the critical one: point (c) above. Interms of R-on-I, risk-adjusted.

    i.e., they do not need Alfa-s to do the impossible (sell as much as Merc et al), instead they need only to achieve the sorts of results that Jaguar-LandRover have around the world under (Ratan) Tata, or like Volvo are currently starting to achieve under Chinese ownership (Geely.)

    The binding constraint is only financial, borne of the advantages of sheer economies of scale that the German marques enjoy. THAT advantage has been coped with by FCA/Marchionne by (a) sharing dealerships/distribution/service with Jeep and/or maserati and/or Fiat and by (b) relying on a highly modular and class-best platform+architecture+engines, shareable across the other brands, including the very mass market Dodge (usa) and the high-volume-assured semi-premium-priced Jeep(s.)

    i.e., even modestly good sales in the usa+canada (say:like Jaguar or like Infiniti) would likely be ample, given the level of sharing across all the new models and (over time) the other brands.

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    the Quadrifoglio is featured on the latest episode of The Grand Tour (Ep 10) and Jezza seems to be quite impressed!
    of course he mentioned some downers like how difficult it is to get in & out of the car, the small size wheels akin to a sofa set's and it's Wolseley-like looks.
    the soundtrack of the car is just glorious and I think it looks smashing in the white with gunmetal alloys combo.

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    http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...a-romeo-giulia-vs-jaguar-xe-group-test?page=2

    Even a soldout-to-German-car-advertizing and all-too 'patriotic' in peddling their so-called 'national' car brands (namely JaguarLandRover, nevermind their ownership and first-time-ever good-management/stewardship by Tata) AUTOCAR uk basically says in this car that:

    The Giulia 180 hp 2.2. mjd2 all-aluminium looks, rides, handles, steers, has greater poise and character, the better engine, better emissions and fe than either the bmw 3series or the jaguar xe

    BUT (as we're familiar from the PR hatchet jobs by a certain ma'am reviewer on Autocar india) it is still somehow not as well-built, infotainment is a 'decade' worse etc. (the infotainment unit praised on the bmw IS not only made by fca i.,e., magneti marelli for bmw but is literally the same as the one on the Giulia, other than UI and color palate! Ha)

    Ah well, te uk is irrelevant to Alfa plans: those centre on continental europe, esp germany, on italy+france+spain, and esp on the usa and china. Plus Japan, which has a large number of Alfisti clubs etc. Japan's the only reason FCA has bothered to engineer a rhd version, NOT the uk, where fca's sales are almost entirely of the 500/500l/500x and jeeps plus the Fiat vans/uv-s. But Maserati and Abarth are seeing sales increases there, as is Jeep (Renegade), so Alfa (retailed alongside not Fiat but either Jeep or Maserati) may do better in the uk than hitherto likely (judging from the incorrigible and pretentious tone of some reviewers and 'enthusiats' on autocar etc.)

    Esp since TopGear, EVO, Chris Harris and Jeremy Clarkson have 'consecrated' the Giulia as a special car from a rebirthed, born-again 'Alfa Romeo' with all its glory in design and engines and sheer heritage whatever its merely-financial strain/constraints until now, over the last 20 odd years.
     
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    The two largest, oldest and most authoritative/serious auto magazines of the usa, MOTORTREND and Car&Driver have both concluded, after comparo-s, that:

    the Alfa Romeo Giulia is segment-best overall (Quadrifoglio), beating the Mercedes c-class amg, the bmw 3 series M and the Cadillac cts-v.

    The Giulia has begun sales int he usa, is seeing large advertizing right now, and will shortly be followed by the launch of the Stelvio d-sports-cuv version of the Giulia.
     
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    thanks for the update @prabhjot , saw the Motortrend Head2Head with the Giulia Quadrifoglio. this thing keeps winning hearts all over! hope it reflects on the sales charts too.

    And I'm really loving the Motortrend channel, fantastic content and a different presentation style.

    Alfa should do a Giulia Quadrifoglio shooting brake/station wagon, only because it will look darn cool!
    Proof (although a rendering):
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    There will be no station wagon: only a d-cuv, the Stelvio (first edition now available for booking in Italy etc.)

    Then after that, in early 2018, will launch: an 'Alfetta', e-sedan to outdo the bmw 5 and the mercedes e classe, then an E-cuv, to be built at the Maserati plant alongside the current hit, the Levante albeit on the Giulia/Giorgio cutting-edge, scalable platform+architecture, with the same engines as the Giulia. These models will also be twinned to A Dodge usa-and-middle-east only 'american muscle car' model each and to a Maserati each (one Dodge, made in Italy and exported, in 2018, the others around 2020/2021.)
     
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